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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    UConn would be the most obvious choice. Maybe they would just cut hockey? I could see Merrimack going to Atlantic hockey. Arent a bunch of those schools in their conference for the other sports?

    Edit: Nine really was a great number.
    I don't see Merrimack going down to AH. They just moved up to D1 in all sports, which shows a greater commitment to athletics. I don't think its really possible to be nationally competitive in AH, so if that's their goal they need to stay in HEA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    UConn would be the most obvious choice. Maybe they would just cut hockey? I could see Merrimack going to Atlantic hockey. Arent a bunch of those schools in their conference for the other sports?

    Edit: Nine really was a great number.
    Well, there is one school in Hockey East that is a far geographic outlier and is apparently unable to fund its program in a manner that would let it compete on a conference wide or national scale... If that school went (along with, say, similarly situated Vermont), this bus league could go back to Friday/Saturday night home and homes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMC View Post
    Well, there is one school in Hockey East that is a far geographic outlier and is apparently unable to fund its program in a manner that would let it compete on a conference wide or national scale... If that school went (along with, say, similarly situated Vermont), this bus league could go back to Friday/Saturday night home and homes.
    That school is in the top two or three as far as fans go and has won more than most of the other schools in the league. I think because of the decline in the last 15 years we lose sight of the bigger picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amkirby10 View Post
    Eloquently put.
    I was kidding. Like you all as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMC View Post
    Well, there is one school in Hockey East that is a far geographic outlier and is apparently unable to fund its program in a manner that would let it compete on a conference wide or national scale... If that school went (along with, say, similarly situated Vermont), this bus league could go back to Friday/Saturday night home and homes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    That school is in the top two or three as far as fans go and has won more than most of the other schools in the league. I think because of the decline in the last 15 years we lose sight of the bigger picture.
    My point was that Maine doesn't really have any business dictating who should and shouldn't be in the league by some sort of fiat.

    Also, Maine's problems are Maine's problems and blaming it on league membership is bonkers.

    Also, anyone who thinks BU/NU/Lowell etc. would choose to partner with Maine, UNH, and UVM over BC and PC is bonkers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMC View Post
    My point was that Maine doesn't really have any business dictating who should and shouldn't be in the league by some sort of fiat.

    Also, Maine's problems are Maine's problems and blaming it on league membership is bonkers.

    Also, anyone who thinks BU/NU/Lowell etc. would choose to partner with Maine, UNH, and UVM over BC and PC is bonkers.
    Maybe the League would push to see Maine/Vermont and Merrimack go by the way side and let them toss and turn in the AHA...that would leave them with 8 and then they could poach Quinnipiac and say either Holy Cross/Bentley and be the Common Wealth Hockey Association(CWHA).....just a dream and a bad one...Hockey East is ok...just on a down side...happens and go with it....or at least TRY….on a different note, have a great turkey day everyone and GO Maine Hockey this weekend...a sweep would be nice..!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ma#1ne Hky View Post
    Maybe the League would push to see Maine/Vermont and Merrimack go by the way side and let them toss and turn in the AHA...that would leave them with 8 and then they could poach Quinnipiac and say either Holy Cross/Bentley and be the Common Wealth Hockey Association(CWWA).....just a dream and a bad one...Hockey East is ok...just on a down side...happens and go with it....or at least TRY.on a different note, have a great turkey day everyone and GO Maine Hockey this weekend...a sweep would be nice..!
    Happy turkey day too you too!

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    Interesting drift in this thread. Here are average PWR (CHN) by conference as of today.

    Independent: 14.0 (n=1)
    BiG: 18.0 (n=7)
    NACHO: 21.75 (n=8)
    WCHA: 30.2 (n=10)
    HEA: 31.82 (n=11)
    ECAC: 37.09 (n=12)
    AHC: 41.45 (n=11)

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    Quote Originally Posted by umhockey91 View Post
    I'd like to see see America East Hockey form with:

    Maine
    UNH
    Vermont
    UMass-Lowell
    NU
    BU
    UMass
    UConn

    8 teams is plenty it would allow for home & home series vs. everyone plus 6 OOC games.
    Until the ACC sponsors hockey and forces BC to play in its league or the Patriot League does the same with BU neither will be in a league without the other. Furthermore, BU will likely never agree to a 28-game league schedule, as that would only leave them with 2 non-Beanpot OOC games a season.

    It is also highly unlikely any of the 5 charter members of Hockey East would leave the league unless forced to (and I don't see the ACC, CAA or Big East ever sponsoring hockey. Nor do I see the Patriot League or America East sponsoring hockey anytime soon). They also would likely never vote out the first two teams to accept invitations to join, Maine and UMass Lowell. That leaves 4 schools that the league could vote out. I agree that a nine team league that plays 3 games vs each league opponent for a 24 game league schedule is near ideal. So what 2 schools to kick out? Merrimack has never been good overall or in league play. And with their move to full DI they have to spend more on their other sports, including football and basketball (where the money is), so hockey is likely to become less important at the school. UConn has not been good since joining Hockey East, and is definitely a minor sport after women's and men's basketball, football and field hockey. Vermont was good when they joined, but they are on a down swing. A new coach and arena could change that, but neither may happen anytime soon. UMass is currently on the upswing and it seems that they will remain good, at least as long as Coach Carvel is their head coach (see what happened at SLU when he left). So, the two most likely to be booted would be Merrimack and UConn.

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    I recall discussion here about Maine dropping ticket prices. How much did they drop the prices and was it this season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Pickett View Post
    I recall discussion here about Maine dropping ticket prices. How much did they drop the prices and was it this season?

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    The crappy 20 bench seats went to 16. The premium 50 seats went to 35. The 30 and 20 seats in the lower section stayed the same I believe. They changed some season tick prices with this.

    See if this works

    https://goblackbears.com/news/2019/4/17/umaine-athletics-announces-new-ticket-pricing-structure-for-mens-ice-hockey
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    Quote Originally Posted by AMC View Post
    My point was that Maine doesn't really have any business dictating who should and shouldn't be in the league by some sort of fiat.

    Also, Maine's problems are Maine's problems and blaming it on league membership is bonkers.

    Also, anyone who thinks BU/NU/Lowell etc. would choose to partner with Maine, UNH, and UVM over BC and PC is bonkers.
    Umm.....it wasn't Maine dictating anything. It was my far out scenario....an opinion....by a fan......chill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMC View Post
    My point was that Maine doesn't really have any business dictating who should and shouldn't be in the league by some sort of fiat.

    Also, Maine's problems are Maine's problems and blaming it on league membership is bonkers.

    Also, anyone who thinks BU/NU/Lowell etc. would choose to partner with Maine, UNH, and UVM over BC and PC is bonkers.
    No kidding. Hockey East (right now) absolutely needs PC and BC. Otherwise, we're looking at the WCHA right here in our back yard.

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    Happy Thanksgiving to all my fellow Black Bear fans.

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    Predictions..?

    I'm going with a Maine sweep. SLU is truly bad this year. Anything less will result in a swift kick to Maine's PWR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    Predictions..?

    I'm going with a Maine sweep. SLU is truly bad this year. Anything less will result in a swift kick to Maine's PWR.
    If Maine dosen't sweep that's a huge problem. SLU lost at home to Vermont. I also expect Theissen to get another chance at starting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amkirby10 View Post
    If Maine dosen't sweep that's a huge problem. SLU lost at home to Vermont. I also expect Theissen to get another chance at starting.
    God, I hope not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    God, I hope not...
    If Swayman left at the end of the season and the only returning goalie got one start on the road and got pulled... wed all rag on coaching staff for poor planning. So, you need to get Thiessen some game time. Well lets pick opponents that are not as strong so that he can adjust to the speed of the game and things. A start this weekend makes a lot more sense than a start on the road against a ranked opponent.

    Games that are good for Thiessen beyond a start this weekend would be Yale, AIC, and UNDPT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    God, I hope not...
    I will admit he's done nothing but worry me so far, but I still have some faith in him. He wasn't an NHL pick for no reason, and as of now he's still the Goalie of the Future. It would be good to get him some meaningful game reps.

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