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Originally posted by Drew S. View PostWould the current AD make a change in season? I don’t think there is any doubt he should, but it’s rare in college sports.
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Originally posted by NorthMike View PostUnlikely, but can the AD shame Red into resigning or getting him off the bench to just go recruiting and fund raising. I suppose the contract wont allow that.
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Hard to find words to describe this weekend. I mean losing both of these games was for sure a possibility and probably likely but 12-0? I figured Maine was at least going to have 1 line that looked like division 1 hockey players (Tralmaks Doherty Fossier) but even they looked lost out there.
It's going to be a long long season, perhaps that's what is needed to have a change behind the bench. I worry that the damage that has been done is too much. We're 7 years removed from our last tournament birth and the same amount removed from our last trip to the garden. People clamored for Whitehead to be fired (and it was justified) but people seem to be giving Red more slack. We fired Whitehead a year after we made it to the tournament, 3 or of his last 4 seasons were above .500 and his last recruiting class included 3 guys who played NHL games (Shore, Hutton, Lomberg). Whitehead at least was able to recruit talent. It always seemed like they underachieved though. I think Guite and Alfie are doing their best but I think getting players to play for an emotionless, disconnected dinosaur is a tough draw. I don't remember the last player on Maine who was confident carrying the puck through the neutral zone, Red has these players dump the puck the second cross the red line and then come off for a line change.
We see Red continually lose talent because he wants players to rot away in Juniors when they could provide scoring now. I hate calling out the players but these guys genuinely don't look like division 1 talent. Guite and Alfie have found some under-recruited diamonds, Keeper, Fossier, Tralmaks but it's not even close to enough.
Still gonna buy tickets, watch and listen to every game but it's painful watching lately. Last years team underachieved and this year's team just doesn't look capable of accomplishing anything. It's really a shame because the fans really still want to support the team but administration lacks the backbone to fire a coach and put a decent product on the ice. I hear people say it is the facilities but we know that's BS, the Alfond still rocks and this is one of the only schools in the country where the players are rockstars. Most schools can't just create that.
I know we're two games in but I think fans are justifiable in sounding the alarms. It's not even about the results, it's about the way we played the game.
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Originally posted by BlackBearFan19 View PostHard to find words to describe this weekend. I mean losing both of these games was for sure a possibility and probably likely but 12-0? I figured Maine was at least going to have 1 line that looked like division 1 hockey players (Tralmaks Doherty Fossier) but even they looked lost out there.
It's going to be a long long season, perhaps that's what is needed to have a change behind the bench. I worry that the damage that has been done is too much. We're 7 years removed from our last tournament birth and the same amount removed from our last trip to the garden. People clamored for Whitehead to be fired (and it was justified) but people seem to be giving Red more slack. We fired Whitehead a year after we made it to the tournament, 3 or of his last 4 seasons were above .500 and his last recruiting class included 3 guys who played NHL games (Shore, Hutton, Lomberg). Whitehead at least was able to recruit talent. It always seemed like they underachieved though. I think Guite and Alfie are doing their best but I think getting players to play for an emotionless, disconnected dinosaur is a tough draw. I don't remember the last player on Maine who was confident carrying the puck through the neutral zone, Red has these players dump the puck the second cross the red line and then come off for a line change.
We see Red continually lose talent because he wants players to rot away in Juniors when they could provide scoring now. I hate calling out the players but these guys genuinely don't look like division 1 talent. Guite and Alfie have found some under-recruited diamonds, Keeper, Fossier, Tralmaks but it's not even close to enough.
Still gonna buy tickets, watch and listen to every game but it's painful watching lately. Last years team underachieved and this year's team just doesn't look capable of accomplishing anything. It's really a shame because the fans really still want to support the team but administration lacks the backbone to fire a coach and put a decent product on the ice. I hear people say it is the facilities but we know that's BS, the Alfond still rocks and this is one of the only schools in the country where the players are rockstars. Most schools can't just create that.
I know we're two games in but I think fans are justifiable in sounding the alarms. It's not even about the results, it's about the way we played the game.
You are right, the fans want to support this program and the boys. But I don’t think anyone wants Red behind the bench now. Even optimists don’t.
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Re: Maine Black Bears 2019-20: Seeing Red
From USCHO's Tuesday Morning Quarterback column:
If any concerns should come out of that game, it is for the Black Bears that many thought would take a step forward this year.
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There are more apologists (for Red and even more-so for the UM athletic dept.) out there than there are people calling for change. It is what it is.....a constant revolving door of UM Presidents & ADs is just as responsible as UMaine's financial woes. I bet 50% of the hardcore UM Hockey fans from the Shawn Walsh era are now dead....or bedridden in area nursing homes. The rest of us are becoming numb to it all.
Football & basketball are the new "it" sports at UM........hockey has shed most of casual fan base.....and they ain't coming back. Times change.
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Originally posted by amkirby10 View PostIm holding out some hope that its a team that will grow up a little bit and improve throughout the year.
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Originally posted by Runsub5 View PostIdeally, a young team should develop and get better throughout the season. There has been no indication of that happening under Gendron's leadership.
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Originally posted by umhockey91 View PostFootball & basketball are the new "it" sports at UM........hockey has shed most of casual fan base.....and they ain't coming back. Times change.
If you have to whore yourself out for two FBS games per year, which hamstrings your ability to make the playoffs AND still fund the program at or near the bottom of your conference, you aren't a growth industry.
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Originally posted by AMC View PostAh, yes, football, that program that is so set up for a future of success that after the best season in program history the head coach fled to take the best job he could find, figuring that the peak the program was on would never be achievable again. And that new job? At best 5th or 6th on the org chart at Minnesota.
If you have to whore yourself out for two FBS games per year, which hamstrings your ability to make the playoffs AND still fund the program at or near the bottom of your conference, you aren't a growth industry.
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