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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

    Bill Maher is scum so not shocking.

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    • #92
      Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

      Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
      Bill Maher is scum so not shocking.
      He's not scum but man he can be dense.

      He's old. Older even than I. He has internalized the Dem establishment's "not in the face!" cowardice. His ideal world is a Clinton 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th term where we get rid of the immigrant cages and mandatory ultrasounds but inequality keeps skyrocketing because, after all, he "earned" it.
      Last edited by Kepler; 09-12-2019, 10:55 AM.
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      • #93
        Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
        Not fun watching Bill Maher on MSNBC this morning call Elizabeth Warren "too scary" to be elected.

        https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/wa...se-68753989744
        To a lot of people sadly this is true. If the media didnt completely suck at all things they could change this but they wont for various reasons we have discussed in the past.

        I mean considering Maher was the first to push Bernie or Warren in any real capacity (going back years) it isnt like he doesnt want her to win.
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        • #94
          Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          He's not scum but man he can be dense.

          He's old. Older even than I. He has internalized the Dem establishment's "not in the face!" terror. His ideal world is a Clinton 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th term where we get rid of the immigrant cages but inequality keeps skyrocketing because, after all, he "earned" it.
          That is mostly untrue. He liked Bill Clinton in the 1990s but he never supported Hillary Clinton at all. (even in 2008) He wants Socialists that is why he pushed Bernie to run going back to 2008. He is farther left than most on the environment as well. I think you need to spend less time reading what Kos says about him and actually research where he is at on most of the issues. Hell he wants a higher tax rate than I think Warren does. (or has in the past)

          The guy is dense but he is hardly a centrist. He was exposing the GOP for what they were long before anyone and was saying not to negotiate with terrorists.

          He may be to the Right of you...but who isnt
          Last edited by Handyman; 09-12-2019, 11:02 AM.
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          • #95
            Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

            Originally posted by Handyman View Post
            I mean considering Maher was the first to push Bernie or Warren in any real capacity (going back years) it isnt like he doesnt want her to win.
            But like most old liberals he lacks the courage of his convictions. Reagan really left a mark. It taught people of a certain age (mine) that the populace would always be fooled by a smooth talking, smiling simpleton who offered "free stuff" (tax cuts -- never you mind how we'll pay for them!) and who would burn the poors alive as long as they were a different color.

            That was the Boomers' world: a world of selfishness, self-indulgence, self-absorption. But now the Boomers are dying and from what I've seen of the youngins they will shovel our selfishness into our graves along with us. They will bury us, thank god.
            Last edited by Kepler; 09-12-2019, 11:03 AM.
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            • #96
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              Originally posted by Handyman View Post
              That is mostly untrue. He liked Bill Clinton but he never support Hillary Clinton at all. He wants Socialists that is why he pushed Bernie to run going back to 2008. He is farther left than most on the environment as well. It hink you need to spend less time reading what Kos says abotu him and actually research where he is at on most of the issues.
              I've been watching him every week for 20 years across his shows; have you? Maybe if you stopped making inane assumptions about other people you wouldn't make such a fool of yourself.

              I'm not saying he's not a liberal -- my whole point is he is. I'm saying that he is a liberal, and he does want liberal policies, but he is too afraid to go for it now that it's here.

              He's Nancy Pelosi with better t-ts.
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              • #97
                Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                I've been watching him every week for 20 years across his shows; have you? Maybe if you stopped making inane assumptions about other people you wouldn't make such a fool of yourself.

                I'm not saying he's not a liberal -- my whole point is he is. I'm saying that he is a liberal, and he does want liberal policies, but he is too afraid to go for it now that it's here.

                He's Nancy Pelosi with better t-ts.
                Going back to when it was on Comedy Central. And even then he was pushing Lefty candidates even though he tried to make the show more funny than anything.

                He is not a politician, he doesnt need to have "courage of his convictions" He gives all the candidates a forum if they want it. Notice it is Centrists like Hillary and Obama who never really spent time on his show...it is usually the Lefties who need the forum. Not many Clinton 5th termers would be asking Bernie to win or donating to their campaign pre-Trump and you know it. Not many would be begging for the regulations Warren wants to put in. (not many would let Zack Galif...Galifanotgonnaworkhereanymore smoke pot on the air either) A Clinton 5th termer wouldnt spend the majority of their time fighting for the environment, PETA or railing on the Center.

                The dude is dense, and a pain to watch sometimes cause he often gets tunnel vision and interrupts everyone like he is their wife or something. He is a comedian. His convictions are to get laughs first and then espouse his ideas. His ideas are closer to you than you want to admit.

                And I will stop making assumptions about you when you do the same.
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                • #98
                  Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  We are free to govern according to reason, for the first time in American history.
                  Have you met the United States Senate?

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                  • #99
                    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

                    Originally posted by ticapnews View Post
                    Have you met the United States Senate?
                    Within the party, we are free.

                    With Congress we need to gain power. Having gained it we don't have to kneel before the Shrine of the Great Unwashed anymore.

                    How do we gain it? De-Nazification.
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                    • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

                      Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                      The dude is dense, and a pain to watch sometimes cause he often gets tunnel vision and interrupts everyone like he is their wife or something. He is a comedian. His convictions are to get laughs first and then espouse his ideas. His ideas are closer to you than you want to admit.
                      I think his ideas on most things are very similar to mine. He seems pretty f-cked up on #metoo, though. Enough that I assume he's eventually going to get popped.

                      But his schtick is speaking the unacknowledged truth in the room. He does understand for instance that there is no way to negotiate with the Nazis. They're insane and they're not going to help. The only way to work with them is to pare down their numbers to where they're easy to scoop up and shunt through the exhaust vent.

                      But he's old so he still lives in 1980s America where you have to pretend to believe in Reagan's rhetoric because all the voters do. That's not true anymore -- the only people who believe government is a bigger threat than the rich after the last 40 years of evidence are irredeemably brainwashed Republicans. So we don't have to pay any attenion to that claptrap anymore.

                      The bad thing about all the dummies being on the Right now is there are a lot of them.

                      The good thing about all the dummies being on the Right now is we don't have to pretend to be dummies any more to appease them.
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                      • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

                        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                        It's the whole socialism thing. I wonder how much traction that actually has with the centrists.
                        a lot more than you think.

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                        • Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                          a lot more than you think.
                          “But they’re gonna take 80% of my income!!!!”

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                          • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            I've been watching him every week for 20 years across his shows; have you? Maybe if you stopped making inane assumptions about other people you wouldn't make such a fool of yourself.

                            I'm not saying he's not a liberal -- my whole point is he is. I'm saying that he is a liberal, and he does want liberal policies, but he is too afraid to go for it now that it's here.

                            He's Nancy Pelosi with better t-ts.
                            I'm going to start by saying Warren is probably my preferred candidate. However, I think Trump is the only reason she would even have the chance in the general. Up against a different Republican candidate (say a Mitt Romney) she would get destroyed.

                            Her policies poll well in the ~35% of Americans that identify as Democrat, not so much across the whole electorate. The majority of Democrats support Medicare for all, the majority of voters do not.

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                            • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

                              Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                              “But they’re gonna take 80% of my income!!!!”
                              Kochs have been pumping them full of that for 40 years, I'm not surprised.

                              I'd be willing to bet at least half of our conservative posters on the Forum do not understand how marginal rates work.

                              That's not a bug for the Plutes. It's a feature. Built-in ignorance -- no wonder they hate education.
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                              • Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers V: Bye Felicia

                                You guys need to stop equating a Dem primary with a blood feud. If the Dem electorate isn't as left as my preferred candidate (Warren) then so be it. Whoever we get in that case (I'd say Biden/Harris/Buttigieg aren't quite as liberal as her) will be aligned with Lizzy on like 95% of policy anyway and that's good enough for me.

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