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  • Re: NFL 2019-20: We'll Just Talk About Our Fantasy Teams Again....

    Putting players on the exempt list over a civil complaint (not a judgement and not a criminal anything) is a pretty dangerous precedent, isn't it?
    The Exempt List is a special player status available to clubs only in unusual circumstances.

    You tell me.
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      Originally posted by Swansong View Post
      I believe we should believe all accusations of the sort - at the least believe them enough to investigate thoroughly. But I also believe in due process for the accused as well.
      Take them seriously. Investigate. Prosecute if the investigation yields sufficient evidence. Let a jury or judge (since it's civil) decide. Just like any other crime.

      On the one hand men get away with rape all the time because sexism.

      On the other hand uppity black males get railroaded all the time because racism.

      On the other other hand rich celebs get targeted for extortion all the time because greed.

      Let it play out in the justice system; don't let white males anywhere near it from the proceedings to the media coverage.
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        Originally posted by SonofSouthie View Post
        The Exempt List is a special player status available to clubs only in unusual circumstances.

        You tell me.
        Yes, I read that article too (or one of them citing that old original article) and it isn't citing the rule, it's summarizing it. "unusual circumstances" is hardly letter of the law. I'm not saying it won't happen, since it's the NFL, but it's probably the worst possible decision they could make.
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          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          Take them seriously. Investigate. Prosecute if the investigation yields sufficient evidence. Let a jury or judge (since it's civil) decide. Just like any other crime.

          On the one hand men get away with rape all the time because sexism.

          On the other hand uppity black males get railroaded all the time because racism.

          On the other other hand rich celebs get targeted for extortion all the time because greed.

          Let it play out in the justice system; don't let white males anywhere near it from the proceedings to the media coverage.
          I think I pretty much agree with this.
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            There's a couple of the text messages in the actual lawsuit, they can be seen here.

            He should probably be put on the exempt list for his crimes against English.

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              Originally posted by jerphisch View Post
              There's a couple of the text messages in the actual lawsuit, they can be seen here.

              He should probably be put on the exempt list for his crimes against English.
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              Based on those tweets, f-ck it, he's a rapist, kill him slow. At least Kraft had the decency to drop $20 when he did it.

              (I keeed. No way Kraft's dick still works.)

              The fact that the Pats are gonna be hurt by this makes this day just that much better. Least he didn't murder anyone. Baby steps.

              Also: Antonio Brown was admitted to and attended an accredited university in the United States.
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                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                Also: Antonio Brown was admitted to and attended an accredited university in the United States.
                One of said school's specialties in the region is...journalism.
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                  Originally posted by Twitch Boy View Post
                  One of said school's specialties in the region is...journalism.
                  Here is a proud graduate of their law school.
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                    Seems like the Cleveland Browns are still the Cleveland Browns.

                    They perma-banned a fan for throwing beer on a Tennessee player during Sunday's game. But in true Brown's fashion, they managed to identify and ban a guy who hasn't been to a game for 9 years, and during the game in question was actually deejaying at a wedding.

                    I think my favorite comment in the banned fan's twitter account is the guy who suggested he "take one for the team" and accept the ban, thus giving the real perp an opportunity to strike again.

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                      Originally posted by Rover View Post
                      I'm inclined to give the woman the benefit of the doubt although if she does indeed have texts of him begging for forgiveness it would be nice if that came out. Regarding the Pats/NFL I'm not sure there's anything they can do at this point. Brown is entitled to due process like anybody else even if he is a self centered jerk. That changes if he's charged with anything, and I am a little confused as to why this is a civil suit instead of a criminal complaint.
                      IIRC, you don't have to prove as much guilt.
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                        Originally posted by Rover View Post
                        I'm inclined to give the woman the benefit of the doubt although if she does indeed have texts of him begging for forgiveness it would be nice if that came out. Regarding the Pats/NFL I'm not sure there's anything they can do at this point. Brown is entitled to due process like anybody else even if he is a self centered jerk. That changes if he's charged with anything, and I am a little confused as to why this is a civil suit instead of a criminal complaint.
                        She doesn't get to decide whether it is a criminal complaint or not. In normal cases, she would file a police report and a district attorney would decide to press charges or not. This is not a normal case.

                        Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                        IIRC, you don't have to prove as much guilt.
                        For criminal trials it is "beyond a reasonable doubt" for civil trials it is "a preponderance of the evidence." It is why OJ was found not guilty of criminal charges but was found responsible for two murders in civil court.

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                          Originally posted by ticapnews View Post
                          She doesn't get to decide whether it is a criminal complaint or not. In normal cases, she would file a police report and a district attorney would decide to press charges or not. This is not a normal case.



                          For criminal trials it is "beyond a reasonable doubt" for civil trials it is "a preponderance of the evidence." It is why OJ was found not guilty of criminal charges but was found responsible for two murders in civil court.
                          There we go. Thanks, ticap!
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