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  • #421
    Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

    Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    Always test in prod.
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    • #422
      Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
      Yep.

      I work around a lot of engineers in the mechanical field, and am myself in IT. The two biggest things that are cut in any project are testing, and risk management. Although, I'll best the risk management was done on the pipeline and they ultimately decided it was cheaper for them to have the damm thing leak then it was to build it so it didn't leak, or the leak could be minimized.
      Those are literally the last things cut in any of the projects I've even been remotely associated with. Usually the questions are:

      --"Did we make sure to include mechanical integrity testing?"
      (This almost always includes full pressure tests, literally testing every bolt on the entire system, x-rays on welds (overdone almost to a fault), water testing of the operation, leak tests, sniff tests where they take portable instruments out to ensure there are no vapor leaks)
      --"Have we done a full safety design review?"
      (during which, the first question is almost always asked)
      --"Have we done the full pre-startup review?"
      (during which, the first two questions are asked and at least two people sign off of them)

      I've had to cut scope in past projects because we decided to include more robust pre-startup testing than originally planned. I've never had it go the other way. I'm not aware of a single engineer who has ever made a conscious decision to make something more prone to leaks in order to save money. 999,999 times out of 1,000,000 it's management who ultimately makes that decision. In all of those cases, you can find stacks of correspondence from the engineering team saying this is a really bad idea.

      Either they aren't engineers of record anymore and they're management or you have found a field of four leaf clovers.
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      • #423
        Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

        Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
        Those are literally the last things cut in any of the projects I've even been remotely associated with. Usually the questions are:

        --"Did we make sure to include mechanical integrity testing?"
        (This almost always includes full pressure tests, literally testing every bolt on the entire system, x-rays on welds (overdone almost to a fault), water testing of the operation, leak tests, sniff tests where they take portable instruments out to ensure there are no vapor leaks)
        --"Have we done a full safety design review?"
        (during which, the first question is almost always asked)
        --"Have we done the full pre-startup review?"
        (during which, the first two questions are asked and at least two people sign off of them)

        I've had to cut scope in past projects because we decided to include more robust pre-startup testing than originally planned. I've never had it go the other way. I'm not aware of a single engineer who has ever made a conscious decision to make something more prone to leaks in order to save money. 999,999 times out of 1,000,000 it's management who ultimately makes that decision. In all of those cases, you can find stacks of correspondence from the engineering team saying this is a really bad idea.

        Either they aren't engineers of record anymore and they're management or you have found a field of four leaf clovers.
        Sounds like you work for the right company.
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        • #424
          Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

          The NCGOP is literally trying to psyche out Democratic state senators so they can call a vote w/o them there: https://twitter.com/JeffJacksonNC/st...31074992230401

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          • #425
            Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

            Will the last person out of Mississippi please turn the lights out and lock the door?

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            • #426
              Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

              Fascinating map. MS --> AL job migration maybe?

              See what having a Dem Senator does?
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              • #427
                Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

                In more than 1,000 counties, or about one in three, the unemployment rate is higher than it was a year ago. That includes all 72 counties in Wisconsin
                Holy ****.
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                He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                • #428
                  Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

                  Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                  Holy ****.
                  Yeah, but those feminists got their comeuppance.

                  Elections have consequences.
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                  • #429
                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    Fascinating map. MS --> AL job migration maybe?

                    See what having a Dem Senator does?
                    It seems to be confusing the Twitter posters too, as they mentioned the weird discrepancy. Someone pointed out that Alabama added a bunch of State/Federal jobs recently which might have caused a portion of the shift.

                    Also interesting that the upper midwest, voters who felt slighted by Obama and voted Trump, continue to be hurt by Trump.

                    Kinda surprised by Washington State. Not surprised by Kentucky.
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                    • #430
                      Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

                      One quirk with Washington State is that with Seattle pushing for $15/hr minimum wage, there is an increase in employment in King and Snohomish counties, yet an increase in unemployment everywhere else.
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                      • #431
                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        Yeah, but those feminists got their comeuppance.

                        Elections have consequences.
                        It will be the fault of Obama or the new dem gov

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                        • #432
                          Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

                          Originally posted by aparch View Post
                          One quirk with Washington State is that with Seattle pushing for $15/hr minimum wage, there is an increase in employment in King and Snohomish counties, yet an increase in unemployment everywhere else.
                          Well most of the jobs are there anyways. Outside of Seattle can be quite scary in Washington.
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                          • #433
                            Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            Yeah, but those feminists got their comeuppance.
                            Losing your job to own the libs.

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                            • #434
                              Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

                              Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                              Losing your job to own the libs.
                              The more you suffer
                              The more it shows you really care
                              Right?
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                              • #435
                                Re: The States: North Dakota? Come On, Ohio Is The Worst State Ever.

                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                The more you suffer
                                The more it shows you really care
                                Right?
                                'Murica in a nutshell.

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