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  • #691
    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

    There's a reason I shop as local as I can. Target (and occasionally, as in once a year, Amazon) being the exceptions. I rarely even go to Old Chicago anymore. If I go out to eat, it's family-owned, or at least a 3-4 store local chain (kinda: different restaurants under the same local umbrella).
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    • #692
      Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

      Caitlin Johnstone weighs in on the wapo coverage of Sanders:

      https://t.co/5IV49v2Nza?amp=1
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      • #693
        Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

        I agree with Bernie on that one, in the sense that it's silly for the WaPo to suggest that Bezos lets them truly operate independently and has no influence. Even if he doesn't pop in every week, you can bet that the implied threat that he might exert more control if they start printing too much stuff he doesn't like keeps the editors from printing anything too "controversial" on a regular basis.

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        • #694
          Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

          I don't think Bezos is coming down to the news room but there's a reason he decided to buy a newspaper in the first place.

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          • #695
            Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

            Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
            I agree with Bernie on that one, in the sense that it's silly for the WaPo to suggest that Bezos lets them truly operate independently and has no influence. Even if he doesn't pop in every week, you can bet that the implied threat that he might exert more control if they start printing too much stuff he doesn't like keeps the editors from printing anything too "controversial" on a regular basis.
            Definitely. It isn't like a newspaper is a license to print money. When rich people or corporations buy media it's so they can control messaging about things they care about. Including criticism of them.

            That's             the investment.
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            • #696
              Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

              Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
              I don't think Bezos is coming down to the news room but there's a reason he decided to buy a newspaper in the first place.
              So you don't think he's selflessly devoted to the fearless promulgation of truth, regardless of consequence?

              I thought I was cynical...
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              • #697
                Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

                I agree with Sanders, but not for the reasons he's stated. The press, not just the WaPo, doesn't like him. They never did. They just took it easy on him in 2016 because they disliked Hillary even more and Sanders was useful to them. I suspect its not "corporate influence" but rather that Sanders doesn't seem like a schmoozer to me (although perhaps Kep can opine on that given his DC connections) and the press eats it up if someone gives them access. Kinda like how Moscow Mitch McConnell can openly launder money and take payoffs to directly benefit Russia, but the press will overlook that and hail his alleged legislative brilliance instead because he serves good Kentucky bourbon at those Beltway cocktail parties that they live to attend.
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                • #698
                  Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

                  Originally posted by Rover View Post
                  I suspect its not "corporate influence" but rather that Sanders doesn't seem like a schmoozer to me (although perhaps Kep can opine on that given his DC connections) and the press eats it up if someone gives them access.
                  You raise an interesting point because Sanders really has no schmoozer profile, I mean insofar as people tell me these things (I am not actually the DC equivalent of Marin Mersenne). He's not stiff-arming like Ted Cruz but my impression of him is he's just busy all the time. He is a total press access whore, however -- Bernie is no fool in understanding that you have to cultivate the press. But unlike many politicians who actively circulate socially among "influencers" (pause while I barf), Bernie seems to be always working. I think the guy is legitimately like an NFL coach. When he's not on the field he's eating tape until 3 a.m.

                  The other like this is Warren. Warren simply doesn't socialize. She works and occasionally, I guess, sleeps, and that's it.

                  I think this is laudable behavior but I would, wouldn't I?
                  Last edited by Kepler; 08-14-2019, 09:31 AM.
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                  • #699
                    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

                    I love the Onion.

                    Also.
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                    • #700
                      Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

                      U.S. Politics
                      Odds to Win the 2020 Presidential Election
                      08:00 PM
                      2001 Donald Trump -110
                      2006 Elizabeth Warren +700
                      2004 Joe Biden +750
                      2002 Bernie Sanders +900
                      2003 Kamala Harris +1400
                      2068 Andrew Yang +2200
                      2060 Pete Buttigieg +2800
                      2025 Tulsi Gabbard +4000
                      2047 Beto ORourke +6600
                      2007 Cory Booker +6600
                      2017 Amy Klobuchar +10000
                      2069 Marianne Williamson +10000
                      2005 Mike Pence +10000
                      2015 Julian Castro +12500
                      2061 Bill de Blasio +15000
                      2057 Jay Inslee +15000
                      2050 John Hickenlooper +15000
                      2008 Kirsten Gillibrand +15000
                      2070 Michael Bennet +15000
                      2065 Seth Moulton +15000

                      I feel like Cory Booker is probably "the best bet" right now.
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                      • #701
                        Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

                        Poor Delaney, they wouldn't even give him odds, lol.

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                        • #702
                          Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

                          Originally posted by geezer View Post
                          U.S. Politics
                          Odds to Win the 2020 Presidential Election
                          08:00 PM
                          2001 Donald Trump -110
                          2006 Elizabeth Warren +700
                          2004 Joe Biden +750
                          2002 Bernie Sanders +900
                          2003 Kamala Harris +1400
                          2068 Andrew Yang +2200
                          2060 Pete Buttigieg +2800
                          2025 Tulsi Gabbard +4000
                          2047 Beto ORourke +6600
                          2007 Cory Booker +6600
                          2017 Amy Klobuchar +10000
                          2069 Marianne Williamson +10000
                          2005 Mike Pence +10000
                          2015 Julian Castro +12500
                          2061 Bill de Blasio +15000
                          2057 Jay Inslee +15000
                          2050 John Hickenlooper +15000
                          2008 Kirsten Gillibrand +15000
                          2070 Michael Bennet +15000
                          2065 Seth Moulton +15000

                          I feel like Cory Booker is probably "the best bet" right now.
                          Pence.

                          What does Dump's -110 mean? A $1000 bet wins $890 more?
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                          • #703
                            Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

                            $100 bet gives a $110 payout.

                            Stupid bet.
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                            • #704
                              Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

                              Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                              $100 bet gives a $110 payout.

                              Stupid bet.
                              Nope --> $110 bet wins $100.


                              (FWIW it puts Trump at 52.38% to win, Liz at 12.5% to win, and Joe at 11.76%.)
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                              • #705
                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                Pence.

                                What does Dump's -110 mean? A $1000 bet wins $890 more?
                                110 wins 100 (pays 210). Essentially means he's getting 50/50 odds, since the extra 10 is the house vig.

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