Iowa, Nebraska are possibilities for Big Ten hockey: Startribune.com

[4four4]

Re: Iowa, Nebraska are possibilities for Big Ten hockey: Startribune.com

I am an Iowa Football season ticket holder and am somewhat connected to some things behind the scenes, but I’ll be shocked if Iowa adds hockey anytime soon.

The cost to add a women’s program is a legit concern, among others, and Iowa already is picky with their varsity sports. The donors are in the football program, wrestling program, and basketball program, like many schools.

A $7-8MM annual expense doesn’t come easy.

The arena in Coralville, which Iowa Volleyball will call home and is looking for an ECHL or USHL tenant, is off campus and will allow alcohol sales.

I think Iowans in the Iowa City and Cedar Rapids area would support the men’s team pretty well from the get go — getting them to be competitive with little to no in state HS recruiting is a hurdle, however the USHL is prominent in Iowa, which would help mitigate that some.

Great points but are buddy Larry said this was happening 15 years ago. Moreover, Iowa and Illinois will recruit Minnesotans which is great for the kids in the state of hockey.

[beaverhockeyfan]

Re: Iowa, Nebraska are possibilities for Big Ten hockey: Startribune.com

I am an Iowa Football season ticket holder and am somewhat connected to some things behind the scenes, but I’ll be shocked if Iowa adds hockey anytime soon.

The cost to add a women’s program is a legit concern, among others, and Iowa already is picky with their varsity sports. The donors are in the football program, wrestling program, and basketball program, like many schools.

But, you do not have to add women's hockey. All you have to to to comply with Title IX is add enough women's scholarships and roster spots to keep you at the percentage of your student population. Yes, adding women's hockey is the easiest way to do that, but you could also add different women's sport.

[devildog]

Re: Iowa, Nebraska are possibilities for Big Ten hockey: Startribune.com

Great points but are buddy Larry said this was happening 15 years ago. Moreover, Iowa and Illinois will recruit Minnesotans which is great for the kids in the state of hockey.

I get your proximity statement, but recruits will come from everywhere, including Canada and Europe. Even Northern Michigan has had European players in the past.

[Timothy A]

Re: Iowa, Nebraska are possibilities for Big Ten hockey: Startribune.com

But, you do not have to add women's hockey. All you have to to to comply with Title IX is add enough women's scholarships and roster spots to keep you at the percentage of your student population. Yes, adding women's hockey is the easiest way to do that, but you could also add different women's sport.

Hey the wwcha desperately needs an 8th team. If the facility is there, get a team together and just do it. I'm sure some rich alumni can finance the thing. It's really pathetic that with all the money sue players have made over the last 10 years in the nhl they didn't toss some money back to the U and save the women's program.

[Happy]

Re: Iowa, Nebraska are possibilities for Big Ten hockey: Startribune.com

But, you do not have to add women's hockey. All you have to to to comply with Title IX is add enough women's scholarships and roster spots to keep you at the percentage of your student population. Yes, adding women's hockey is the easiest way to do that, but you could also add different women's sport.

The easiest way is adding the scholarships to either women's crew, or cross country/track, both of which are very cheap compared with hockey.

[solovsfett]

Re: Iowa, Nebraska are possibilities for Big Ten hockey: Startribune.com

If Iowa and/or Nebraska add teams it’s great for D1 hockey I guess but for this fan? Yawn. Every season I watch or listen to b10 hockey is another year removed from a revered conference with real rivals like Denver, Nodak, CC, Duluth. Between this **** conference and Wisconsin laying eggs i’m About ready to just move on from men’s NCAA hockey.

[Split-N]

Re: Iowa, Nebraska are possibilities for Big Ten hockey: Startribune.com

...A lot of people speculated Iowa Is looking at D1 hockey though...

Sorry but I can't hold my breath on this. It's already being held waiting for Illinois to make its perpetually imminent announcement.

[Slap Shot]

Re: Iowa, Nebraska are possibilities for Big Ten hockey: Startribune.com

If Iowa and/or Nebraska add teams it’s great for D1 hockey I guess but for this fan? Yawn. Every season I watch or listen to b10 hockey is another year removed from a revered conference with real rivals like Denver, Nodak, CC, Duluth. Between this **** conference and Wisconsin laying eggs i’m About ready to just move on from men’s NCAA hockey.

Well bye then. Even from 7,000 miles away with a few games online I've witness plenty of compelling BTHC games. You realize that the UW and UM had UMi and MSU as conference rivals in the past right? And when they did the rivalries were every bit as good as whatever there was in the WCHA? Also the BTHC doesn't have Anchorage, Bemidji, Michigan Tech (a one time member), etc.

[solovsfett]

Well bye then. Even from 7,000 miles away with a few games online I've witness plenty of compelling BTHC games. You realize that the UW and UM had UMi and MSU as conference rivals in the past right? And when they did the rivalries were every bit as good as whatever there was in the WCHA? Also the BTHC doesn't have Anchorage, Bemidji, Michigan Tech (a one time member), etc.

I don’t hear any of the old timers talk about Michigan or MSU as a rival. I’ve never heard that. Even the 70’s players don’t mention a big 10 or rivals outside Minnesota, Nodak, Denver et al. That was a mythical championship as I recall as well. Michigan Tech was a big rival in the 70’s.
I’ll Agree to disagree, I just don’t care about tosu, MSU, ped state etc.

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

Re: Iowa, Nebraska are possibilities for Big Ten hockey: Startribune.com

I don’t know what to tell you, man.

If Denver and UMD and Tech are the teams you’re interested in, then follow those teams.

[4four4]

Re: Iowa, Nebraska are possibilities for Big Ten hockey: Startribune.com

I get your proximity statement, but recruits will come from everywhere, including Canada and Europe. Even Northern Michigan has had European players in the past.

Of course but there will be more opportunity for Minnesota kids playing D1 hockey.

[4four4]

Re: Iowa, Nebraska are possibilities for Big Ten hockey: Startribune.com

Hey the wwcha desperately needs an 8th team. If the facility is there, get a team together and just do it. I'm sure some rich alumni can finance the thing. It's really pathetic that with all the money sue players have made over the last 10 years in the nhl they didn't toss some money back to the U and save the women's program.

Well, St. Thomas has said all their sports will be moving to D1 and this includes hockey. I wouldn't be suprised if the Tommies are in the WCHA or whatever the league will be called.

[4four4]

Re: Iowa, Nebraska are possibilities for Big Ten hockey: Startribune.com

I don’t hear any of the old timers talk about Michigan or MSU as a rival. I’ve never heard that. Even the 70’s players don’t mention a big 10 or rivals outside Minnesota, Nodak, Denver et al. That was a mythical championship as I recall as well. Michigan Tech was a big rival in the 70’s.
I’ll Agree to disagree, I just don’t care about tosu, MSU, ped state etc.

Michigan and Minnesota did have a solid WCHA rivalry.

[4four4]

Re: Iowa, Nebraska are possibilities for Big Ten hockey: Startribune.com

If Iowa and/or Nebraska add teams it’s great for D1 hockey I guess but for this fan? Yawn. Every season I watch or listen to b10 hockey is another year removed from a revered conference with real rivals like Denver, Nodak, CC, Duluth. Between this **** conference and Wisconsin laying eggs i’m About ready to just move on from men’s NCAA hockey.

I understand what you are saying but we all know the old WCHA is never coming back. IMO, I love seeing new schools add the game of ice hockey because it means more Minnesotans will be recruited to their top quality Big Ten school.

[LordofBrewtown]

Re: Iowa, Nebraska are possibilities for Big Ten hockey: Startribune.com

I don’t hear any of the old timers talk about Michigan or MSU as a rival. I’ve never heard that. Even the 70’s players don’t mention a big 10 or rivals outside Minnesota, Nodak, Denver et al. That was a mythical championship as I recall as well. Michigan Tech was a big rival in the 70’s.
I’ll Agree to disagree, I just don’t care about tosu, MSU, ped state etc.

Not sure I qualify as an old timer (I was very young/watching the replays on PBS); but, I'd say Michigan and Michigan St were as big of rivals as Denver, CC, Duluth and Tech, if not bigger. Gophers and Sioux are 1,2...but after that, Michigan and Sparty are right there.

I miss the WCHA and the final 5 tournament too - the geography and easy travel made it great. But, that's gone. And I think many of the fans/graduates from the late 80's and 90's forget or don't realize how big the other rivalries were, because if they weren't watching as kids, they missed out on those conference games before they left to go to the CCHA. Even then, there was the showcase where Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Michigan St were playing each other every year (with locations rotating).