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Originally posted by mookie1995 View PostHow many times does mookie have to say..... winners write the historyCornell University
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Nothing new. Operation Paperclip did a quick "de Nazification" on the scientists and technicians and shipped them off along with their families to an Army facility in the USA. The Russians did the same for the German scientists they laid their hands on.
I forget what happened to the SS guys who were to blame for executing the slave laborers.
If you really want to have fun look up Reinhard Gehlen and Abwehr Ost.CCT '77 & '78
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Originally posted by joecct View PostNothing new. Operation Paperclip did a quick "de Nazification" on the scientists and technicians and shipped them off along with their families to an Army facility in the USA. The Russians did the same for the German scientists they laid their hands on.
If you really want to have fun look up Reinhard Gehlen and Abwehr Ost.Last edited by Kepler; 07-03-2019, 03:23 PM.Cornell University
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostI wasn't presenting it as breaking news. I really enjoyed the graphic presentation. It reminds me of "smart people comics" like Logicomix.
That is fascinating. There are lessons there for fighting the Dumpies from within.CCT '77 & '78
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Originally posted by joecct View PostOh Kep. Look up Gehlen and his post WW2 activities.
I was talking about Canaris who seems to have been able to sabotage the Nazis somewhat from inside while working for their state apparatus. As we descend further into Naziism, American Style! we're going to need people who "can smile, and smile, and be a villain." We are going to need to take those f-cks, and by those f-cks I mean... well... you... down from the inside.Cornell University
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The Byrds went 8 Miles High. SpaceX is aiming for 12.
https://www.space.com/amp/spacex-sta...elon-musk.htmlCCT '77 & '78
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Poop.
India's attempt to become the first nation to land a spacecraft near the Moon's unexplored south pole has apparently ended in failure.
The Chandrayaan-2 approached the Moon as normal until an error occurred about 2.1km (1.3 miles) from the surface, officials said.
India's Space Research Organization (Isro) said it lost contact seconds before the ship was expected to land.
India would have been the fourth nation to make a soft landing on the Moon.Cornell University
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CCT '77 & '78
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Originally posted by joecct View PostThere is a secret base there manned by the Zaphods. They shoot down any intruders.
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And there is a sequel!
https://youtu.be/URTPgGEhmNMCCT '77 & '78
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Another visitor.
An amateur astronomer named Gennady Borisov of Crimea (so I’m calling him Ukrainian), just discovered what is likely (but not yet certainly) the second known visitor to our Solar System from outside of it. The first one, as you might recall, was ‘Oumuamua.Cornell University
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Also this week.
Its size and surface gravity are much larger than Earth’s, and its radiation environment may be hostile, but a distant planet called K2-18b has captured the interest of scientists all over the world. For the first time, researchers have detected water vapor signatures in the atmosphere of a planet beyond our solar system that resides in the "habitable zone," the region around a star in which liquid water could potentially pool on the surface of a rocky planet.
Astronomers at the Center for Space Exochemistry Data at the University College London in the United Kingdom used data from NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope to find water vapor in the atmosphere of K2-18b, an exoplanet around a small red dwarf star about 110 light-years away in the constellation Leo. If confirmed by further studies, this will be the only exoplanet known to have both water in its atmosphere and temperatures that could sustain liquid water on a rocky surface. Liquid water would only be possible if the planet turns out to be terrestrial in nature, rather than resembling a small version of Neptune.
Given the high level of activity of its red dwarf star, K2-18b may be more hostile to life as we know it than Earth, as it is likely to be exposed to more high-energy radiation. The planet, discovered by NASA's Kepler Space Telescope in 2015, also has a mass eight times greater than Earth's.
Stir the soup and you get chemistry.
Randomize the chemistry and you get reproduction.
Reproduce with natural selection and you get the tree of life. A different tree, sure, but nonetheless.
Make life complex enough and you get consciousness, awareness, intelligence, and directed will.
There are Venus-sized spacefaring ladybugs out there somewhere, folks.Last edited by Kepler; 09-12-2019, 10:51 AM.Cornell University
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"… it needs to back to its own star system and apply for a visa. Otherwise Drumpf will send ICE...” If it is small, Drumpf will try to put it in a cage and neglect it. If it is big, he may try to buy it in a shady real estate deal, install crappy facilities, overcharge visitors or tenants, inflate its value for tax write-off purposes, deny any scientific data acquired by NASA probes on or around it, sell it to the Russians so he can launder more of their money, complain about the Russian military base built on it, and finally, use a Sharpie to draw a trajectory on a pilfered NASA map aimed at [insert ENEMY OF THE WEEK].
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostAlso this week.
Getting there; it's only a matter of time.
Stir the soup and you get chemistry.
Randomize the chemistry and you get reproduction.
Reproduce with natural selection and you get the tree of life. A different tree, sure, but nonetheless.
Make life complex enough and you get consciousness, awareness, intelligence, and directed will.
There are Venus-sized spacefaring ladybugs out there somewhere, folks.CCT '77 & '78
4 kids
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1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)
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- Benjamin Franklin
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