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  • #61
    Re: Space exploration: Where do we go from here?

    Also, saw that unlike *EVERY* previous space mission conducted by NASA, SpaceX has revised the launch sequence (with NASA's blessing).

    Liquid fuel is usually loaded into the fuel tanks before the crew is loaded (for crew safety, because of the volatility of the loading process), but they have convinced NASA that it's safe to load the astronauts and then load the fuel, then launch.
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    • #62
      Re: Space exploration: Where do we go from here?

      Originally posted by aparch View Post
      Technically, instead of NASA spending money to have our US astronauts sent into space in Russia, they're spending money to have our US astronauts sent into space in Florida. It's not in-house anymore.
      What's funny about the Tesla vs Airstream based on your note- they chose this pad specifically for nostalgia- it's where Apollo launched. No technical reason.

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      • #63
        Re: Space exploration: Where do we go from here?

        The feed is Good Morning America-level inane. I wish there was a smart/technical people feed.

        TBH, we need that for everything: political, business, sports. There should be a dedicated subscription stream on all media for the top 10%, with different (or no) advertising, different everything. People can listen if they want but we won't slow down for them and we won't tip toe around their myths. If they are lost or bored or angry they can drop down to the gen pop feed.

        Separate but equal.
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        • #64
          Re: Space exploration: Where do we go from here?

          A quick timing reminder- while streaming is live right now, and will be on Discovery and Science at 2pm, actual launch time is 4:33 pm. Which gives me some time to go do some more stuff.

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          • #65
            Re: Space exploration: Where do we go from here?

            Link is blocked for me at work - maybe it will work for you. If not, Google "Onion NASA Bales of Cash."
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            • #66
              Re: Space exploration: Where do we go from here?

              Originally posted by aparch View Post
              Technically, instead of NASA spending money to have our US astronauts sent into space in Russia, they're spending money to have our US astronauts sent into space in Florida. It's not in-house anymore.
              Link is blocked for me at work - maybe it will work for you. If not, Google "Onion NASA Bales of Cash."
              If you don't change the world today, how can it be any better tomorrow?

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              • #67
                Re: Space exploration: Where do we go from here?

                Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
                Link is blocked for me at work - maybe it will work for you. If not, Google "Onion NASA Bales of Cash."
                Maybe try the tube of u's? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aymrnzianf0

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                • #68
                  Re: Space exploration: Where do we go from here?

                  Originally posted by alfablue View Post
                  What's funny about the Tesla vs Airstream based on your note- they chose this pad specifically for nostalgia- it's where Apollo launched. No technical reason.
                  Isn't this the pad NASA leased to SpaceX for all their launches?
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                  • #69
                    Re: Space exploration: Where do we go from here?

                    Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
                    Link is blocked for me at work - maybe it will work for you. If not, Google "Onion NASA Bales of Cash."
                    Manned flight is the only way to convince the apes to give us money. Now hush.
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                    • #70
                      Re: Space exploration: Where do we go from here?

                      So here's more of a technical question... In theory, space travel has a pretty specific safety margin built into it, especially for electronics.

                      And there's no doubt in my mind that this new ship is WAY more advance relative to computers than all previous space ships. Heck, I would not be surprised that this ship has more computing power than all of the previous manned ships combined.

                      But combining the need of more strict computer and electronics systems and the massive step forward in the actual computers- what's the chance that there's some significant steps forward for normal people?

                      One thing I would hope for is an increase in coding safety and efficiency. Back to more what it used to be. We use way too much auto generated code these days, which makes the code SO much more bulky than it was even 5 years ago. I would think that much of that would have to be avoided just for safety reasons. But who knows.

                      For the rest of the computing systems- on the electronics side- have there been any significant advances to make consumer hardware better in the next 5 or so years?

                      In other words, will Space X help advance society like NASA did?

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                      • #71
                        Re: Space exploration: Where do we go from here?

                        Originally posted by aparch View Post
                        Isn't this the pad NASA leased to SpaceX for all their launches?
                        Yes, but SpaceX and Boeing were in competition for the us of that pad. Because Apollo.

                        I'm sure Bezos was part of that bidding process, too.

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                        • #72
                          Re: Space exploration: Where do we go from here?

                          Speaking of Boeing, is Starliner still a thing? Or have they given up?
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by aparch View Post
                            Speaking of Boeing, is Starliner still a thing? Or have they given up?
                            It is still a thing. Believe they have check flights later this year. 3rd Quarter, no specific date yet.

                            https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/

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                            • #74
                              Re: Space exploration: Where do we go from here?

                              Originally posted by aparch View Post
                              Speaking of Boeing, is Starliner still a thing? Or have they given up?
                              With their commercial airplanes division floundering, and today's announced RIF of 10%, I'd think now's the time to focus on getting as many sweet, sweet gubmint/DoD/NASA contracts as possible. Ain't nobody ordering more of Boeing's functioning airplanes (777X, 787) anytime soon, let alone the MAX.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by aparch View Post
                                Isn't this the pad NASA leased to SpaceX for all their launches?
                                Not quite. SpaceX primarily uses pad 40 for their Falcon 9, unmanned launches. ULA, using their Atlas 5 rocket, uses pad 41. 39-A is set up for Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy flights, but is used sparingly.

                                https://images.app.goo.gl/mtu5zi842QsFfqx66

                                That's a really good map outlining who uses what pads. The launch calendar I linked previously gives scheduled pads where known as well.

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