Re: Ohio State Buckeyes 2019-2020: Muzzling All Detractors
In 1970's Football is was the Big Two & The Little Eight. But you definitely caught my reference.
FWIW, people here refer that era as the "10 Year War" between Woody Hayes & Bo Schembechler. There's even a full book with that title. Don't know for sure if Michiganders use that phrase, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do.
Those Football teams aren't bad role models for OSU Hockey. Always in the mix, and occasionally breaking through for titles. Good results.
Gopher Football has had it moments. QB Mike Hohensee once lit up the Buckeye secondary for a nice win. Glen Mason's teams were generally tough on Defense; tough enough to grab one win in the Horseshoe. And there have also been some near misses. I suppose the rub is that since 1967, Gopher Football hasn't broken through for a title. "Sometimes in the mix, but never a Champ" doesn't quite have the same appeal.
On the one hand, I'd argue that our team's FF Season constituted the kind of breakthrough I'm talking about. But on the other hand, prognosticators probably won't take the Buckeyes seriously for WCHA Championships until they win a WCHA Banner. Nature of the beast.
I understand your perspective. For all intents & purposes, I agree.
But I can't resist injecting my sermonette on trash talk here. Trash talk wins my respect when two conditions are met. The comment must be:
1. Bulls-Eye Accurate; &
2. Genuinely Funny.
If the remark fails either test, I lose some respect for the poster. Far too often, would-be trash talkers are sloppy with the facts. Or they're petty & humorless. Or all of the above. Those posts are without merit. Just fighting for fighting's sake.
Thanks & Yes. Lots to root for. Greatly looking forward to the season. Good luck to the Gophers as well.
Originally posted by ARM
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FWIW, people here refer that era as the "10 Year War" between Woody Hayes & Bo Schembechler. There's even a full book with that title. Don't know for sure if Michiganders use that phrase, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do.
Since then, teams like Iowa, Wisconsin, and Michigan State have made themselves relevant quite regularly, and first Penn State and then Nebraska joined the fold.
So in one sense, it no longer is OSU and Michigan with a gap back to everyone else. But at the same time, there are a lot of teams, Minnesota being one, who haven't competed on the same level as Ohio State in football in many, many years.
I think that you and I are in agreement. Since UMD last won the WCHA in 2010, either Wisconsin or Minnesota has taken the WCHA season and/or tournament every season, so that's part of why the coaches look to those two first. To the Buckeyes' credit, they served up some major whoopings to the Gophers two years ago. If coaches aren't predicting more of the same this year, it is mainly because Minnesota figures to more closely resemble its team from one year ago rather than the one that got owned by the ladies from Columbus.
As you're well aware, on a forum like this, we all have to deal with a certain amount of trash talk. UM has enjoyed more than its share of success, but someone like Timothy is always ready to look out for us and make sure that we retain some humility. We've only lost to BC one time, but TTT will never let us forget that time. Take even that one bit of trash talk that you mentioned as a compliment to the Buckeyes. Notice that poster didn't bother to throw any abuse in the direction of MSU or SCSU. It wasn't that long ago when Potter was coaching your team, it was looking up at BSU in the standings, and it nearly belonged in the same breath as the Mavericks and Huskies.
But I can't resist injecting my sermonette on trash talk here. Trash talk wins my respect when two conditions are met. The comment must be:
1. Bulls-Eye Accurate; &
2. Genuinely Funny.
If the remark fails either test, I lose some respect for the poster. Far too often, would-be trash talkers are sloppy with the facts. Or they're petty & humorless. Or all of the above. Those posts are without merit. Just fighting for fighting's sake.
Good luck to the Buckeyes this season. You have two players on your roster who could easily emerge as WCHA POTY and nobody would be all that surprised. There haven't been many seasons where that has been the case.
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