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Originally posted by shelfit View PostDid one of the assistant coaches leave? That's what I just heard. Can anyone confirm or deny this rumor?
http://www.jobsatosu.com/postings/95203
So, they do officially have a posting for an assistant coach but my guess is it's a formality intended to shore up things for Cassels since he's currently listed as an "interim" coach on Muzzy's staff. The job listing shows it will be open only from 5/25/19 until 6/2/19. That's a very small window if they were actually looking for a new assistant coach. I think this answers the rumor quite easily.
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Re: Ohio State Buckeyes 2019-2020: Muzzling All Detractors
Originally posted by osualum86 View PostPgb, thanks for starting this thread! I like your subtitle better than the one I was going to have. My subtitle this year was going to be "Lessons Learned or History Repeats Itself." By that, I mean I want to see if this team shows up every game and plays like it's Minnesota or Wisconsin, or if we continue to stumble against inferior teams...
As for the friendly little debate about scheduling, if you look at the league we play in, as well as the non-league schedule that was put together, it becomes fairly obvious that Ohio State ducks no one.
Add to that the fact that years ago, Ohio State had a chance to leave the WCHA for the CHA and ultimately decided, correctly, to stay in the WCHA.
I cannot wait until the season gets going. We miss the girls. We were actually looking at the schedule to see if we could make one of the road trips this fall. We like to make one road trip in the fall, then start saving up for the postseason.
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Well '86, it seems that some of our esteemed guests decided to have a bit of a kerfuffle at our place. Guess I'll toss in a couple of quick takes.
Originally posted by joecct View PostI can confirm that Clarkson did not add an assistant.
*EDIT:For the record, I am aware that the Transfers thread has done a 180 & is now in silly talk mode...
Originally posted by Puckdrop14 View PostYou are a wee bit paranoid. The comment has nothing to do with gender so take a deep breath. It has more to do with the constant change with this team’s staff and it extends beyond the assistant coaching changes.
HOWEVER: Let's not go into denial. Lindsay is not paranoid. Big picture, female coaches sometimes do get a "shorter leash" than their male counterparts.
Every new coach deserves a chance to put their program in place. Regime change generally means more turnover than normal. Of course stability remains the goal. But given the situation Coach Muzzerall inherited, I would say she's entitled to a little extra slack, not less than usual.
Last, and certainly least. But curiosity compels me to ask. What in the heck did you try to use as an emoticon? At least on my screen, it was blocked.Last edited by pgb-ohio; 06-01-2019, 01:13 AM.
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Yea CCT’s comment was definitely funny. I agree with that. Also, sure it’s a fact OSU is going through a lot of asst coaches. Couldnsee them losing either asst and not being surprised, just bc if the nature of the business, and in Cassels case cause he just joined woho a year ago. It’s a worthy topic of discussion, especially for a program that is high profile like Osu. And by high profile, I mean, has a thread on this board, haha. While on that topic - there are other programs going through assistants at the same rate, it’s just that this program is being talked about. It’s not always because the coach is difficult to work for, but even if it is, so what? It kind of comes with the territory of working/playing D1. Some coaches are tough, whether out of intention due to necessity, or just because they are still figuring out their style. In my opinion, a place like OSU needs to be going all out, all the time on account of the league they play in and the various challenges they have as far as depth or lack their of, compared to other teams. Not to mention, the school is massive, it IS a football school despite the work of the hockey folks and the school has had at least 2 scandals in the past 12 months, that probably only complicate things as far as recruiting coaches or players, in a state not known for girls hockey. It probably is exhausting for everyone, but until they build up a winning program and the ability to recruit the best exhausting and intense might be how it is.
Separate from that though, for me it’s impossible not to notice the lengths people go to to be diplomatic in their criticisms (or not) depending on the person they are talking about. I don’t really care for the coaches sake. The coaches can handle it, and hopefully are smart enough not to waste time on the boards.
Does it suck for a fan who just wants to able to be informed about and click on a puff piece in a coach without having to read “she doesn’t love her self at all” or some snark like that though? Yes it gets annoying after a while.Last edited by Lindsay; 05-27-2019, 12:38 PM.
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Originally posted by pgb-ohio View PostWell '86, it seems that some of our esteemed guests decided to have a bit of a kerfuffle at our place. Guess I'll toss in a couple of quick takes.
This is wicked funny. Even for an OSU fan. And a welcome contrast to the grim, judgmental tone over on the Transfers thread.
For my part, I don't believe your intent was sexist. My sense is that you're a call-it-as-you-see-it guy, and that you would have been willing to make the exact same comment about a male coach.
HOWEVER: Let's not go into denial. Lindsay is not paranoid. Big picture, female coaches sometimes do get a "shorter leash" than their male counterparts.
Every new coach deserves a chance to put their program in place. Regime change generally means more turnover than normal. Of course stability remains the goal. But given the situation Coach Muzzerall inherited, I would say she's entitled to a little extra slack, not less than usual.
Last, and certainly least. But curiosity compels me to ask. What in the heck did you try to use as an emoticon? At least on my screen, it was blocked.
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Originally posted by Lindsay View Post...sure it’s a fact OSU is going through a lot of asst coaches. Couldnsee them losing either asst and not being surprised, just bc if the nature of the business, and in Cassels case cause he just joined woho a year ago. It’s a worthy topic of discussion, especially for a program that is high profile like Osu. And by high profile, I mean, has a thread on this board, haha. While on that topic - there are other programs going through assistants at the same rate, it’s just that this program is being talked about. It’s not always because the coach is difficult to work for, but even if it is, so what? It kind of comes with the territory of working/playing D1. Some coaches are tough, whether out of intention due to necessity, or just because they are still figuring out their style. In my opinion, a place like OSU needs to be going all out, all the time on account of the league they play in and the various challenges they have as far as depth or lack their of, compared to other teams. Not to mention, the school is massive, it IS a football school despite the work of the hockey folks and the school has had at least 2 scandals in the past 12 months, that probably only complicate things as far as recruiting coaches or players, in a state not known for girls hockey. It probably is exhausting for everyone, but until they build up a winning program and the ability to recruit the best exhausting and intense might be how it is.
Still, it's OK. I'm content with the hand we've been dealt. We're in a better position to break into the top group than most of the underdogs. No sympathy requested. A little more fairness, for the head coaches on down? Yeah, that'd be nice.
Separate from that though, for me it’s impossible not to notice the lengths people go to to be diplomatic in their criticisms (or not) depending on the person they are talking about. I don’t really care for the coaches sake. The coaches can handle it, and hopefully are smart enough not to waste time on the boards.
Does it suck for a fan who just wants to able to be informed about and click on a puff piece in a coach without having to read “she doesn’t love her self at all” or some snark like that though? Yes it gets annoying after a while.
Originally posted by Lindsay View PostPGB thanks for lightening the mood. There is a reason this is one of the best threads on the board
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Originally posted by osualum86 View PostCoach Muzerall has signed a great recruiting class. There is an article in ohiostatebuckeyes.com. I will link it later when I have time to find it.
Buckeyes Ink Seven For 2019-2020At the outset, we could hang with the dude...
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Originally posted by Ahockeydad View PostAnyone want to guess on lineups?
I will start this with the line-up sheet from our last game last season (graduating seniors in UPPERCASE).
Forward lines
Emma Maltais-CHARLY DAHLQUIST-Tatum Skaggs
Paetyn Levis-JACYN REEVES-MADISON FIELD
Liz Schepers-Sara Saekkinen-Rebecca Freiburger
Samanta Bouley-ERIN LANGERMEIER-Olivia Soares
Gabby Rosenthal
Defensive lines
Jincy Dunne-Sophie Jaques
LAUREN BOYLE-Lisa Bruno
Madison Bizal-Elise Riemenschneider
Goaltenders
Andrea Braendli
Amanda Zeglen*
Lynsey Wallace
I will start with the back end. It's obviously Andrea Braendli's net after the freshman season she had. Lynsey Wallace and incoming freshman Quinn Kuntz will be solid backups. I put an asterisk by Amanda Zeglen's name because she is transferring to Clarkson. She is a solid goaltender, she will do great at Clarkson.
With the d-lines, five of our top six D's are back. After being injured for all but a couple games last season, hopefully Eve Savander is back for her sophomore year. Eve actually started with Jincy that first weekend vs Quinnipiac, then got injured and missed the rest of the season. Along with those six, there are four new freshmen who I think will challenge for playing time this season in Maddie Babnik, Addi Scribner, Miranda Anthony, and Teghan Inglis.
Now for the other end of the ice ... the big concern for me is coming up with some centers since we graduated three centers from last year's team. I am thinking Sara Saekkinen may move up and center our top line with Emma Maltais and Tatum Skaggs, but that's just me speculating. Someone else may emerge and center that top line. Only one player returns to our second line in Paetyn Levis, who really came on in her rookie season. Paetyn started the season on the third or fourth line and by the end of the season was on the second line. Last season's third line was Sara Saekkinen centering Liz Schepers and Rebecca Freiburger. All three return this season. The fourth line was Samantha Bouley, Erin Langermeier, and Olivia Soares. Samantha Bouley and Olivia Soares return and I hope to see them get more ice time this season as they have both earned it. Gabby Rosenthal will be back for her sophomore season and I believe she will take the next step and challenge for a spot in one of those top three lines. In addition to those nine returning players, three highly-regarded freshman forwards will be coming in to challenge the returning players for spots ... Ramsey Parent, Brooke Bink, and Jennifer Gardiner.
So, honestly, other than Emma Maltais and Tatum Skaggs on the wings of our top line, I have no clue how the other spots are going to shake out, but I will say this ... It has been nice watching Coach Nadine bring in great recruiting classes and add depth to our roster. I cannot remember a time when we had this much talent and depth. It is going to be a fun year and I cannot wait to see the new freshman players.
Back to you, Ahockeydad ... do you have any guesses?
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Originally posted by osualum86 View PostGoing to bump this thread for Pgb ... 45 days until the opener on 9/27 vs St. Lawrence.
Originally posted by osualum86 View PostAhockeydad ... great question. I'll play.
I will start this with the line-up sheet from our last game last season (graduating seniors in UPPERCASE)...
... So, honestly, other than Emma Maltais and Tatum Skaggs on the wings of our top line, I have no clue how the other spots are going to shake out, but I will say this ... It has been nice watching Coach Nadine bring in great recruiting classes and add depth to our roster. I cannot remember a time when we had this much talent and depth. It is going to be a fun year and I cannot wait to see the new freshman players.
Kudos to the posters who already have informed opinions on the recruits, before they ever hit the ice for their new teams. I feel like I watch a lot of hockey. But for most of the players, I don't see them play in person until they arrive at the D-1 Level.
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