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  • #76
    Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    And then they thought of something new in "The Last Jedi" and everyone hated it.
    Well the rub is that not everything new is going to work for people. I am one of the people who hated TLJ but I still give them credit for trying, it just didnt connect with me. Just because it didnt connect though doesnt mean they werent wrong to maybe go against type...they just might have done it the wrong way or too much for some of us.

    That is the problem with iconic characters...once people have in their heart an interpretation of a character it can be very hard for them to see them in a different light. That doesnt mean though you dont keep trying...otherwise there is no need for new stories.
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    • #77
      Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

      Originally posted by Handyman View Post
      Well the rub is that not everything new is going to work for people. I am one of the people who hated TLJ but I still give them credit for trying, it just didnt connect with me. Just because it didnt connect though doesnt mean they werent wrong to maybe go against type...they just might have done it the wrong way or too much for some of us.

      That is the problem with iconic characters...once people have in their heart an interpretation of a character it can be very hard for them to see them in a different light. That doesnt mean though you dont keep trying...otherwise there is no need for new stories.
      What was new in TLJ?
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      • #78
        Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        I think the best part of the explosion of comic book movies has been that there is now enough material out there to end the myth that stories that originate in comic books are special in some way, either negatively or positively.

        As somebody who had literally never read a comic book (and who has still only read one, Watchmen, all the way through), I had definite biases against the material going in. I've probably seen about 2 dozen comic book movies now and for the most part of I've liked them in a "kill 2 hours" way. A couple have been stinkers, a couple have been outstanding. But the mystique of the provenance of comic book movies is completely gone, now. They are just another kind of source material: like a play, a novel, or another movie.

        There's nothing magic pixie about them good or bad. It's a question of whether you can bring a good story to life on the screen, which has been the heart of all movies since the Lumieres.
        It is no different than anything else...some stories have deeper content (Watchmen, V For Vendetta) and some dont. If they dont they shouldnt try to and if they do dont water it down.

        Comic books are modern mythology. Some are hyper-realistic but most are just stories about good versus evil. They dont matter any more or any less than most stories out there. The same with the films.
        "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
        -aparch

        "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
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        • #79
          Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          What was new in TLJ?
          They put a different slant on just about everything. I found it refreshing and consistent. I'm in the minority.
          **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

          Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
          Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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          • #80
            Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            What was new in TLJ?
            Go to the dedicated thread for it...the discussions are long and rather tedious and not worth ruining this thread.
            "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
            -aparch

            "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
            -INCH

            Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
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            • #81
              Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
              They put a different slant on just about everything. I found it refreshing and consistent. I'm in the minority.
              I may be tone deaf but I thought of it as very much in the same character as the earlier movies (the ones that happened, that is) and I liked it for that. It felt familiar and comfortable and not in any way novel or ambitious.

              We're talking about the one with the stupid throne room scene at the end, right?
              Last edited by Kepler; 05-13-2019, 09:58 AM.
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              • #82
                Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                I may be tone death but I thought of it as very much in the same character as the earlier movies (the ones that happened, that is) and I liked it for that. It felt familiar and comfortable and not in any way novel or ambitious.
                The mere fact that they threw the Sith and the Jedi out the window was massive.
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                • #83
                  Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

                  Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                  The mere fact that they threw the Sith and the Jedi out the window was massive.
                  The Sith were part of the movies that didn't happen so they don't matter.

                  How did they throw the Jedi out the window?
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                  • #84
                    Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    The Sith were part of the movies that didn't happen so they don't matter.

                    How did they throw the Jedi out the window?
                    There aren't any left. And there likely is never to be another one. At least that's the way I saw it. Best to go back to the old thread. I don't want to pollute this one any more on this topic.
                    **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                    Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                    Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                    • #85
                      Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

                      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                      There aren't any left. And there likely is never to be another one. At least that's the way I saw it. Best to go back to the old thread. I don't want to pollute this one any more on this topic.
                      I thought the implication was the chicky was going to hatch new ones and start it all over again, guided by Luke In Your Head.
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                      • #86
                        Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

                        TLJ didn't suffer because they tried new things, it was just a bad film that didn't work in my respects. TFA was worse for different reasons - in this case because of it's repetitiveness in plot, Rey's too quick ascension as a bad ass, the forest fight scene, etc.

                        FYI - the fanboy in me still had "fun" watching and I look forward to IX, but they have a lot to overcome to redeem themselves.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          Hey. I've missed Spectre and Blofeld. Holmes needs Moriarity. Max needs KAOS.
                          Blofeld is gone. Roger dumped him in a smokestack
                          a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            I think the best part of the explosion of comic book movies has been that there is now enough material out there to end the myth that stories that originate in comic books are special in some way, either negatively or positively.

                            As somebody who had literally never read a comic book (and who has still only read one, Watchmen, all the way through), I had definite biases against the material going in. I've probably seen about 2 dozen comic book movies now and for the most part of I've liked them in a "kill 2 hours" way. A couple have been stinkers, a couple have been outstanding. But the mystique of the provenance of comic book movies is completely gone, now. They are just another kind of source material: like a play, a novel, or another movie.

                            There's nothing magic pixie about them good or bad. It's a question of whether you can bring a good story to life on the screen, which has been the heart of all movies since the Lumieres.
                            Mookie was and still shocked Red came from a funny page
                            a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                            • #89
                              Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

                              Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                              Blofeld is gone. Roger dumped him in a smokestack
                              But did he get his delicatessen?
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                              • #90
                                Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

                                Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                                Mookie was and still shocked Red came from a funny page
                                Was that the chick who bounced around on cars but wasn't Hanna, or the drooling old Bruce Willis thing?

                                TBH I could see either of them starting out as comic books. Bam, biff, pow, zzzzz.
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