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  • Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

    Originally posted by Rover View Post
    sorry Kep, I gotta be me
    Well... same here, to be honest.

    We're old and inflexible. We're probably not going to be having much of an effect on the young and mentally agile members of the Cafe.
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    • Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

      LMFAO, I'll take things nobody said for $500 Alex!

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      • Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

        On a scale of 1 (far right loonie) to 100 (left wing progressive loonie) rate the candidates.

        Michael Bennet
        Joe Biden
        Bill de Blasio
        Cory Booker
        Steve Bullock
        Pete Buttigieg
        Julián Castro
        John Delaney
        Tulsi Gabbard
        Kirsten Gillibrand
        Mike Gravel
        Kamala Harris
        John Hickenlooper
        Jay Inslee
        Amy Klobuchar
        Wayne Messam
        Seth Moulton
        Beto O'Rourke
        Tim Ryan
        Bernie Sanders
        Eric Swalwell
        Elizabeth Warren
        Marianne Williamson
        Andrew Yang
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        1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

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        • Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
          LMFAO, I'll take things nobody said for $500 Alex!
          "I'm wrong agai..."

          BEEP BEEP BEEP

          mookie?
          "Who is rover"

          Correct.
          a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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          • Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

            Originally posted by joecct View Post
            On a scale of 1 (far right loonie) to 100 (left wing progressive loonie) rate the candidates.

            Michael Bennet
            Steve Bullock
            Wayne Messam
            Marianne Williamson
            You made these names up, didn't you?
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            • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              For god's sake, man; I'm the Marxist*!...
              Which brother?
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              • Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                Originally posted by joecct View Post
                Which brother?
                I thought that was obvious. You've never heard me speak.

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                • Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  For god's sake, man; I'm the Marxist*! I understand the normalization of neoliberal policy under bourgeois compromised "left" parties is the road to plutocratic hegemony.

                  But I also know actual fascism, and I can tell a hawk from a handsaw.

                  Obviously I want Liz in the White House and the editorial board of Jacobin as her cabinet, at a bare minimum. But I'll settle for not having a lunatic monster and his jackboot jackwagon party there.

                  * via Marcuse, not Lenin. Don't get the vapors, boys.
                  I think we're in agreement on this but if people are gonna keep spouting this tripe about Dumpy voters deserving everything that happens to them (or those who voted third party or sat out etc.), then we can also be honest about the fact that those who keep voting for terrible candidates solely based on some absurd notion of "electability", are just as much a part of the problem.

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                  • Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                    Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
                    I think we're in agreement on this but if people are gonna keep spouting this tripe about Dumpy voters deserving everything that happens to them (or those who voted third party or sat out etc.), then we can also be honest about the fact that those who keep voting for terrible candidates solely based on some absurd notion of "electability", then those idiots are just as much a part of the problem.
                    I don't make that jump with you. I think if you voted for Dump you deserve what you get. At some point there has to be accountability.

                    With Dubya I'll give people who voted for him in 2000 a break. They were dumb but he hadn't been exposed yet. By 2004, though, those who voted Dubya deserved what they got.

                    With Dump there was never any question of what It was or what It was going to do. Anybody who voted for It is fully complicit. The guy has been slowly tweeting his Mein Kampf to us for the last decade. We all knew.
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                    • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      I thought that was obvious. You've never heard me speak.

                      Guess I can't harp on our differences, eh?
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                      1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

                      ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
                      - Benjamin Franklin

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                      • Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                        Originally posted by joecct View Post
                        Guess I can't harp on our differences, eh?
                        Ironically his birth name was "Adolph." Also weirdly he changed it to Arthur in 1911 -- nothing to do with You Know Who.
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                        • Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                          Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
                          I think we're in agreement on this but if people are gonna keep spouting this tripe about Dumpy voters deserving everything that happens to them (or those who voted third party or sat out etc.), then we can also be honest about the fact that those who keep voting for terrible candidates solely based on some absurd notion of "electability", are just as much a part of the problem.
                          If given the choice between Paul Ryan and Donald Trump, I'd enthusiastically take Paul Ryan. He'd **** us economically, but at least he wouldn't be putting us in weekly constitutional crises.

                          That's the fundamental scenario you seem to not be getting. ANYTHING is better than Trump.

                          Would I prefer a Klobuchar or Warren? Yes, 100% yes.
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                          When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                          He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                          • Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                            Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                            If given the choice between Paul Ryan and Donald Trump, I'd enthusiastically take Paul Ryan. He'd **** us economically, but at least he wouldn't be putting us in weekly constitutional crises.

                            That's the fundamental scenario you seem to not be getting. ANYTHING is better than Trump.

                            Would I prefer a Klobuchar or Warren? Yes, 100% yes.
                            Exactly so.
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                            • Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                              Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                              That's the fundamental scenario you seem to not be getting. ANYTHING is better than Trump.
                              No I fully understand that and have even said I'd vote for the lesser of evils. But realistically that's a stop gap measure from fascism and not a very effective or long term one.

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                              • Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                                Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
                                No I fully understand that and have even said I'd vote for the lesser of evils. But realistically that's a stop gap measure from fascism and not a very effective or long term one.
                                Sadly, most Americans do not make this calculation. Trump is beloved by his 35%. If the Dems pick someone with no love attached again they may find themselves in a heap of trouble.
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