2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

[trixR4kids]

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Oh, yes they are. Federally we have more deficit and more debt than ever before.

We also own our own currency and it's the most powerful currency in the world. This isn't as much of an issue as Republicans make it out to be (only when the black guy is in office).

[ScoobyDoo]

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We also own our own currency and it's the most powerful currency in the world. This isn't as much of an issue as Republicans make it out to be (only when the black guy is in office).

Just wait until a Democrat is back in the White House. Red, Black, Brown, White, doesn't matter.

[trixR4kids]

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Well yeah, of course they're gonna be completely disingenuous about that and everything else.

[mookie1995]

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The rich are not the ones underpaying.

https://streets.mn/2015/01/14/map-of...hway-spending/

seems like a very simple metric here.
how about usage? if i road sees X number of cars vs Y. increased care and repair/mile, no?
or not exclusive to population. have to factor in the number of cake eaters driving north to pop a tent on a lake.

[5mn_Major]

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seems like a very simple metric here.
how about usage?

It is a simple metric...because it was a simple question. Who is paying more than their fair share?

But I'm happy to discuss usage. I would doubt that there's a massive number of city cars driving around Otter Tail county - and if there are any, they're on the freeway or other US highway. Just as those living outside the city rarely use city streets, those living in the city just as rarely use thousands of miles of rural country roads and very few in the city would miss very few roads in rural areas if they were not kept.

Having said that, nobody said that this is outcome is bad. We in the city have come to expect we should help maintain the rural roads the state has.

[jerphisch]

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The rich are not the ones underpaying.

https://streets.mn/2015/01/14/map-of...hway-spending/

I'm curious how those graphics told you something about the cost paid by the rich?

[5mn_Major]

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I'm curious how those graphics told you something about the cost paid by the rich?

Quite simple. The states poorest counties do not fully pay for their own roads and those funds come from the counties where the rich live.

Whatever your math to reach a different conclusion...you'll have to explain it very carefully.

[jerphisch]

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Quite simple. The states poorest counties do not fully pay for their own roads and those funds come from the counties where the rich live.

Whatever your math to reach a different conclusion...you'll have to explain it very carefully.

The charts have nothing to do with income, full stop. There is no math involved because there is no data related to income. In general I'd say you're confusing people, with rich people. The places where few people live are subsidized by those where lots of people live. Most of those of people are not rich.

[Handyman]

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Quite simple. The states poorest counties do not fully pay for their own roads and those funds come from the counties where the rich live.

Whatever your math to reach a different conclusion...you'll have to explain it very carefully.

So you just assume that all the people in Outstate Minnesota are poor? Interesting...

I mean that is wrong but it makes sense coming from someone who doesnt know how taxes work.

[5mn_Major]

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The charts have nothing to do with income, full stop.

Counties with much greater wealth are paying for the roads in counties with much less wealth in every single case. Every single one.

I've given my evidence. Still waiting for any scenario explaining that the underpayment that's happening in rural areas is in fact coming from the rich who don't live there.

[5mn_Major]

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So you just assume that all the people in Outstate Minnesota are poor? Interesting...

I mean that is wrong but it makes sense coming from someone who doesnt know how taxes work.

The 8 most affluent counties are in the twin cities. The 78 poorest counties are outstate. 100% correlation. About 60% of the state's millionaires live in Hennepin.

Youre blatantly wrong because your an idiot.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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[FadeToBlack&Gold]

The rich are not the ones underpaying.

He said from the tee at the country club, talking to his Republican friends, with whom he only disagrees on guns and gays (though he does wish they'd quiet down about it, and maybe seek Jesus).

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

The 8 most affluent counties are in the twin cities. The 78 poorest counties are outstate. 100% correlation. About 60% of the state's millionaires live in Hennepin.

Youre blatantly wrong because your an idiot.

*you’re

[GrinCDXX]

The 8 most affluent counties are in the twin cities. The 78 poorest counties are outstate. 100% correlation. About 60% of the state's millionaires live in Hennepin.

Youre blatantly wrong because your an idiot.

Says the person who didn't understand how progressive taxes work.

Also, how are you defining "affluent", where are you getting your numbers, and when did the "twin cities" start including exactly 8 counties? The metro has traditionally been defined by 7 counties and the statistical area includes 16 counties in MN and WI. It almost seems like you're starting with a conclusion and shaping definitions/statistics around it.