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  • #121
    Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Ironically we have a very strong ally: the 1%. It is not to their advantage to disturb their slave consumer base with civil disorder. They need peace at home and violence abroad -- violence at home does not enrich them.
    They are not our ally, they're literally the reason we're in this mess.

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    • #122
      Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

      Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
      They are not our ally, they're literally the reason we're in this mess.
      They are both. Nobody here hates the 1% more than I. Just because somebody is an ally doesn't mean they are a friend. They are lethal -- but they are also a force that would resist a descent into violence.

      Use them and then turn on them.
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      • #123
        Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        They are both. Nobody here hates the 1% more than I. Just because somebody is an ally doesn't mean they are a friend. They are lethal -- but they are also a force that would resist a descent into violence.
        Just because they don't want violence (because it threatens the status quo) doesn't mean they aren't our enemy. The status quo they're trying to maintain doesn't work, is completely unsustainable, and is directly causing the destruction of our planet.

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        • #124
          Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

          Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
          Just because they don't want violence (because it threatens the status quo) doesn't mean they aren't our enemy. The status quo they're trying to maintain doesn't work, is completely unsustainable, and is directly causing the destruction of our planet.
          I never said they weren't our enemy. I said they are our ally in this particular endeavor (containing the Republican threat before it becomes violent).

          You may feel that an all out civil war is preferable to delaying the guillotines. I don't, in part because of the carnage of civil war and in part because the record of human societies emerging from civil wars is not very positive in terms of getting the yoke of a ruling class off their neck. Jacobinism is fun but Bonapartism follows. Bolshevism looks great but Stalinism not so much. And the less said about Mao the better.
          Last edited by Kepler; 05-03-2019, 11:17 AM.
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          • #125
            Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

            Nobody wants an all out civil war lmao, we want Amazon to pay some taxes and aggressive plans that deal with poverty, healthcare, and climate change among other things. The 1% is clearly against all of that and have been throughout pretty much all of history. They'll gladly support fascism over something more egalitarian that's been proven countless times.

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            • #126
              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              Was he the guy who voted to not convict?

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              • #127
                Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
                Nobody wants an all out civil war lmao, we want Amazon to pay some taxes and aggressive plans that deal with poverty, healthcare, and climate change among other things. The 1% is clearly against all of that and have been throughout pretty much all of history. They'll gladly support fascism over something more egalitarian that's been proven countless times.
                I have no problem reducing the 1% to penury. What I am suggesting is while they are the root cause the more immediate problem is the symptom of their orcs using their guns and explosives to genocide everybody they don't like. Before we do France 1794 let's prevent Rwanda 1994.
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                • #128
                  Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                  Well that just furthers my point that the root cause needs to be dealt with.

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                  • #129
                    Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                    Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
                    Well that just furthers my point that the root cause needs to be dealt with.
                    We will strangle the last billionaire with the intestines of the last banker together.
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                    • #130
                      Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                      BREAKING: Bill DeBlasio farts into the wind. Story at 11.


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                      • #131
                        Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                        Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                        BREAKING: Bill DeBlasio farts into the wind. Story at 11.
                        Oh FFS.

                        I like you a lot Bill but no, no, a thousand times no.
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                        • #132
                          Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                          And with that Gillibrand is no longer "Least likely NY Dem to be elected President."
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                          • #133
                            Originally posted by bronconick View Post
                            The last time an incumbent had a minor threat was probably Buchanan in 1992 who got 20-25% of the extreme end of the party. I'd assume Weld would try to get the never Trump's and any moderate Republicans who hadn't already left the party over the past 3+ years
                            Look at it this way, if gives two opportunities to vote against trump. Register as independent and take a Republican ballot in the primary, vote weld. Assuming Weld does not win, vote for the democratic nominee in the general.

                            For welds second term in mass, independent voters went his way 9-1 or something along those lines.

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                            • #134
                              Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                              Originally posted by bronconick View Post
                              And with that Gillibrand is no longer "Least likely NY Dem to be elected President."
                              I dunno it is pretty close...but thankfully combined they wont even break 5%
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                              • #135
                                Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                                Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                                BREAKING: Bill DeBlasio farts into the wind. Story at 11.
                                We go live to Gracie Mansion ...

                                The preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.

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