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  • Re: Spartan Hockey 2018-2019 - Preparing for Glory

    Originally posted by Pirateasaur View Post
    It’s usually hard to glean much useful info from the exhibitions but it’s always fun to get a live look at the team.
    My sentiments exactly! In other news, Kristof Papp made the NHL Central Scouting's preliminary players to watch list as a "C" rated skater. He can't get here soon enough.

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    • Re: Spartan Hockey 2018-2019 - Preparing for Glory

      Originally posted by Pirateasaur View Post
      Ah, the season’s first gameday is finally here! Dreams really do come true.

      It’s usually hard to glean much useful info from the exhibitions but it’s always fun to get a live look at the team.
      Very excited about tonight. I guess if I were to make a short list of things I'm most intrigued to see, it would be
      1. What will a top line look like
      2. How ready are these freshmen? I've a sense that Nodler will be good, and Mueller has an impressive path pre-MSU, but Joshua could be an all-around force and put up some numbers.
      3. How much has D improved. Probably the strength of the program this year.

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      • Originally posted by owslachief View Post
        Very excited about tonight. I guess if I were to make a short list of things I'm most intrigued to see, it would be
        1. What will a top line look like
        2. How ready are these freshmen? I've a sense that Nodler will be good, and Mueller has an impressive path pre-MSU, but Joshua could be an all-around force and put up some numbers.
        3. How much has D improved. Probably the strength of the program this year.
        Joshua comes in as the least heralded freshman but Cole spoke of him very glowingly in his pressers so far. He’s been a commit for a long time. Looks like since early 2016. Many verbal “commitments” disappear as time goes on but Joshua has stuck with it for a long time so it will be Interesting to see what he can do.

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        • Re: Spartan Hockey 2018-2019 - Preparing for Glory

          Hirose certainly made the right decision: 2nd line on the Wings this year.

          At least for the preliminary depth chart tonight, Muller is listed to take his place.
          Go Green! Go White! Go State!

          1966, 1986, 2007

          Go Tigers, Go Packers, Go Red Wings, Go Pistons

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          • Re: Spartan Hockey 2018-2019 - Preparing for Glory

            Alright, gathered a few thoughts. This exhibition was especially hard to gauge due to the massive lineup we fielded and the outrageous amount of special teams play. I was hoping for long stretches of even strength play to help get a feel for this team but alas.

            We dominated an out matched WO squad. I did feel that offensively we got pretty loose in the 2nd period with lot of fancy, unnecessary passing and it resulted in some turnovers, blown scoring chances and transition scoring opportunities for Western. Other than that we controlled the puck and played well defensively. Cole Krygier and Rosberg really popped out to me with some nice plays at both ends of the ice.

            Müller fit in well on the top line. I think he’ll be very good there and have a huge freshman year next to those two.

            The remaining lines(4!) played well. I thought the 4th line of Lambdin, Goodsir and Kamer made things happen.

            I did not notice Nodler and Jagger too much but I tend to lose focus and just follow the action as opposed to watching individual players.

            I still really like Stachowiak. I hope his presence on the 5th line tonight is not an indication that he will be relegated to a a backup role. He’s got energy, some skill and throws the body around.

            Both goalies played well.

            Power play: meh; penalty kill: Pretty good.

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            • Re: Spartan Hockey 2018-2019 - Preparing for Glory

              Again take all this analysis with a grain of salt.. Western Ontario is no Big Ten opponent.

              Thought MSU finally looks like a team with age and skill combined. We dominated a clearly lesser opponent (as they should). Hopefully means a rise out of the basement may be likely this year..

              Defenders looked sharp besides a couple mental breakdowns. The twins especially looked like they have taken major strides this off-season on both ends of the ice.

              Forwards looked pretty good. I agree that Muller will be great on that first line. He also showed some spunk last night and is not afraid of a little contact and smack talk. (I have thought for years now we have missed a little edge to our game)

              The other freshman I thought played really well and showed some flashes. Nodler had a nice move as they were entering the zone one time that almost resulted in a goal.

              I agree at times they looked like it was the first game with sloppiness in the neutral zone and a little rust on the power play with new guys fitting into roles.

              Lambdin's goal was a thing of beauty. Hopefully we can expect more of that this season out of him. Would be real nice to have 3 lines this year with the ability to score..

              Both goalies played pretty well. I think if I had to choose one over the other I'd pick DeRidder right now. Seems like he is the type of goalie that will win you a game where Lethemon is a goalie who isn't going to lose you games if that makes any sense..

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              • Re: Spartan Hockey 2018-2019 - Preparing for Glory

                I would just add that 3 powerplay goals is deceiving. It wasn’t that good. We had 3 long two man advantages and a 5 minute major on the powerplay. Two of the goals were scored during the major with Cole running lines (top line did not play during it) and WO waiting for the game to end. A good powerplay would have scored a couple more goals. This is the area I saw of greatest need. Few quick passes and only one one-timer. It was pass, hold it until defense adjusts, pass and hold it until defense adjusts.

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                • Re: Spartan Hockey 2018-2019 - Preparing for Glory

                  Originally posted by wsummers View Post
                  I would just add that 3 powerplay goals is deceiving. It wasn’t that good. We had 3 long two man advantages and a 5 minute major on the powerplay. Two of the goals were scored during the major with Cole running lines (top line did not play during it) and WO waiting for the game to end. A good powerplay would have scored a couple more goals. This is the area I saw of greatest need. Few quick passes and only one one-timer. It was pass, hold it until defense adjusts, pass and hold it until defense adjusts.
                  I agree but this is something easily fixable with coaching and some film time. I would chalk it up to being early in the year and guys figuring each other out since all 3 freshman are on the 2 powerplay lines. I have seen worse powerplays here at MSU in the last decade...

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                  • Re: Spartan Hockey 2018-2019 - Preparing for Glory

                    I feel like I had a much more negative takeaway than everyone else from last night. My first reaction was that I’m glad we had an exhibition because they looked all out of sync. Can’t believe Northern started last year without one if those are all the cob webs a team has to shake off.

                    I thought the PP moved the puck well, but everyone appeared tentative to shoot, at least early on.

                    PK looked lost their first time. Settled in later, but still didn’t look great.

                    Can’t be giving up so many breakaways. If anyone on WO knew how to deke they probably put up 4, but they just sort of slammed it into the pads.

                    Also liked Müller playing on the top line, though a couple times he took bad routes to loose pucks that took him out of the play, but he should pair well with Khodorenko and Lewandowski.

                    I thought it was funny for how physical WO was, their coaches wanted a penalty anytime one of their guys got touched.
                    Go Green! Go White! Go State!

                    1966, 1986, 2007

                    Go Tigers, Go Packers, Go Red Wings, Go Pistons

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                    • Re: Spartan Hockey 2018-2019 - Preparing for Glory

                      I don't think anyone is expecting miracles this season. I mean, we're being picked to finish at the bottom of our conference once again for good reason: 1) we lost our top scorer a year early; 2) we only brought in 3 new players; and 3) neither goaltender has grabbed the starting role. We just have to hope a lot of guys make good progress this season and wait for the reinforcements over the next few years.

                      Fun fact: WO's giant goaltender Ovsjannikov played for my son's AAA teams for several years in the late aughts. Even then he was a big kid.

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                      • Re: Spartan Hockey 2018-2019 - Preparing for Glory

                        Yes, at a listed 6’6” I don’t remember facing a taller goalie.

                        I’m not as pessimistic as you. I expect this team to finish above 7th. There is enough talent and experience to be somewhere in the middle.

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                        • Re: Spartan Hockey 2018-2019 - Preparing for Glory

                          Originally posted by wsummers View Post
                          Yes, at a listed 6’6” I don’t remember facing a taller goalie.

                          I’m not as pessimistic as you. I expect this team to finish above 7th. There is enough talent and experience to be somewhere in the middle.
                          I think I'm being a realist, not a pessimist. Plus, I'm one of those dying-breed defensive-minded hockey fans who thinks it's all about the goaltending (hence why I think Penn State won't win the conference, but rather Notre Dame and perhaps OSU are in a better position). So until one of MSU's goalies takes ownership of the role, I'm not convinced. But hey, I'd like nothing better than to be proven wrong. Go State!

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                          • Originally posted by FLHockeyMom View Post
                            I think I'm being a realist, not a pessimist. Plus, I'm one of those dying-breed defensive-minded hockey fans who thinks it's all about the goaltending (hence why I think Penn State won't win the conference, but rather Notre Dame and perhaps OSU are in a better position). So until one of MSU's goalies takes ownership of the role, I'm not convinced. But hey, I'd like nothing better than to be proven wrong. Go State!
                            I agree that defense needs to be #1 priority to the point that during our last coaching search I felt we should put out feelers out to Cornell’s coach but I also think we can win with 2 goalies. One of my concerns with last night is that the Krygiers are still unpredictable with the puck. I lauded Cole K on a couple very nice defensive plays to stop WO scoring chances but he also committed a nasty turnover and had to take a penalty to prevent a breakaway as a result. On that note, the twins being paired together did surprise me for this reason. On the plus side, they’re big, have skill and they seem to have good top end speed for carrying the puck through the neutral zone.

                            But like I mentioned, the lineup and heavy, HEAVY special teams play made things hard to read.

                            GoMSU mentioned the power play being underwhelming and I agree. We got 3 goals but a good power play probably pots 6 with all those opportunities.
                            Last edited by Pirateasaur; 10-08-2019, 08:07 PM.

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                            • Re: Spartan Hockey 2018-2019 - Preparing for Glory

                              My personal opinion is that this team has more overall talent/skill than last year. That game Monday could very easily have been 10-1 had MSU scored on their own odd man rushes or breakaways.

                              Losing Hirose will hurt for a bit but I am confident Muller will figure it out, this is the first time he is not playing on an Olympic sized ice sheet after all.

                              I have confidence in this staff to fix the "fixable" problems (power play, turnovers, etc). Some of those problems just take a few games to figure out..

                              Western Ontario was playing a different style then MSU is used to as well.. in the 3rd period once they got down their forwards were trying to jump passes and leaving the d-zone early causing a couple breakaways. Probably won't see that aggressive of a style very often from normal opponents.

                              My early prediction would be middle of the pack in the final conference standings. But the conference is so competitive I could see anywhere from 3rd to last place.

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                              • Re: Spartan Hockey 2018-2019 - Preparing for Glory

                                Originally posted by gomsuman View Post
                                Losing Hirose will hurt for a bit but I am confident Muller will figure it out, this is the first time he is not playing on an Olympic sized ice sheet after all.
                                So you’re saying playing the first 4 games that count on Olympic ice is a good thing...

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