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  • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

    Originally posted by Rover View Post
    This case is going to say a lot about John Roberts. Hopefully he'll be on the right side of history.
    He has certainly tried to salvage his Court's reputation when the case isn't directly in the service of the Plutes. This would seem to be another of those cases. Is there really anybody, even the Thumpers, who does not know that in fifty years everybody, even conservatives, will look at homophobia the way we look at racism?

    I'm curious about how joecct and other social conservatives think about that. Do you think gay rights is an anomaly which will recede or do you think it will continue to be normalized? I'm not asking what you wish should happen, but what you predict will happen socially. For example, there are plenty of social trends I see as unstoppable which I don't approve of (consumerism, loss of privacy, dumbing down, etc).
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    • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      He has certainly tried to salvage his Court's reputation when the case isn't directly in the service of the Plutes. This would seem to be another of those cases. Is there really anybody, even the Thumpers, who does not know that in fifty years everybody, even conservatives, will look at homophobia the way we look at racism?
      Why would the Thumpers care? They want to be racist now.
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      • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        He has certainly tried to salvage his Court's reputation when the case isn't directly in the service of the Plutes. This would seem to be another of those cases. Is there really anybody, even the Thumpers, who does not know that in fifty years everybody, even conservatives, will look at homophobia the way we look at racism?

        I'm curious about how joecct and other social conservatives think about that. Do you think gay rights is an anomaly which will recede or do you think it will continue to be normalized? I'm not asking what you wish should happen, but what you predict will happen socially. For example, there are plenty of social trends I see as unstoppable which I don't approve of (consumerism, loss of privacy, dumbing down, etc).
        How do we look at racism? Seems a large part of the country is down with it.
        What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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        • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

          Originally posted by bronconick View Post
          Why would the Thumpers care? They want to be racist now.
          I guess any self-respecting Thumper assumes the Eschaton before fifty years have elapsed. Just like every Thumper since John of Patmos.
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          • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

            Originally posted by rufus View Post
            How do we look at racism? Seems a large part of the country is down with it.
            Restrict the scope to actual humans. The bottom 50% exist to consume and produce new consumers. Their "opinions" are mechanical replications of the culture and of no interest or importance.
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            • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              He has certainly tried to salvage his Court's reputation when the case isn't directly in the service of the Plutes. This would seem to be another of those cases. Is there really anybody, even the Thumpers, who does not know that in fifty years everybody, even conservatives, will look at homophobia the way we look at racism?
              I think you're giving modern day conservatives a lot more credit than they deserve. I don't foresee those who identify as Trump Humpers (99.9% of conservatives) as being any less racist and homophobic 50 years from now as they are today. That includes any who are still alive and any new ones that come along during that time. You just don't go all in on bigotry like that and then wash it away in a generation. All that you will peel off are the Bill Kristol types who just want to go back to a simpler time when Republicans merely grifted the public over economic issues.
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              • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

                Originally posted by Rover View Post
                I think you're giving modern day conservatives a lot more credit than they deserve. I don't foresee those who identify as Trump Humpers (99.9% of conservatives) as being any less racist and homophobic 50 years from now as they are today. That includes any who are still alive and any new ones that come along during that time. You just don't go all in on bigotry like that and then wash it away in a generation. All that you will peel off are the Bill Kristol types who just want to go back to a simpler time when Republicans merely grifted the public over economic issues.
                Like I said below, I'm thinking about the human portion of the population. The orcs are ever the same, extending back to the apes.

                Now it is entirely possible that within 50 years there just won't be any more human conservatives. The mitosis of partisanship: smart / liberal vs dumb / conservative, while always emergent, has accelerated in the last 40 years. As conservatives climb up into their own as-shole and hide from reality we may just be left with sexist, racist, homophobic conservatives as a vegetable portion of the species.
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                • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

                  As a trans woman, might as well tell me from this point on, it only gets rougher...

                  As far as I'm concerned, all of you are speaking as straight and cis, and I think some of you have no clue of the fear that is running through my community right now.
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                  • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

                    Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post
                    As a trans woman, might as well tell me from this point on, it only gets rougher...

                    As far as I'm concerned, all of you are speaking as straight and cis, and I think some of you have no clue of the fear that is running through my community right now.
                    Obviously I can't relate, but I will say that I do not underestimate the depravity of modern day conservatives and their desire to harm other people to help give meaning to their otherwise worthless existence. Nothing, not racism, treason, hypocrisy, homophobia, etc etc surprises me out of that crowd.
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                    • Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post
                      As a trans woman, might as well tell me from this point on, it only gets rougher...

                      As far as I'm concerned, all of you are speaking as straight and cis, and I think some of you have no clue of the fear that is running through my community right now.
                      It's more I live in a state that protects sexual orientation and gender identity in its civil rights statute, so SCOTUS's ruling won't change a thing here.

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                      • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

                        Originally posted by unofan View Post
                        It's more I live in a state that protects sexual orientation and gender identity in its civil rights statute, so SCOTUS's ruling won't change a thing here.
                        I live in Michigan, where it's quite the opposite. It's been recommended LGBT get added to the civil rights law, but the Speaker of the State House won't let it come to a vote, because of "religious liberty." That's why I am concerned.
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                        • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

                          Originally posted by Rover View Post
                          Obviously I can't relate, but I will say that I do not underestimate the depravity of modern day conservatives and their desire to harm other people to help give meaning to their otherwise worthless existence. Nothing, not racism, treason, hypocrisy, homophobia, etc etc surprises me out of that crowd.
                          It's the death scream of a failed people -- a morally dead culture. They will eventually try to take us all with them via nuclear annihilation. Contain them and let them expire.
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                          • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

                            Originally posted by Rover View Post
                            I think you're giving modern day conservatives a lot more credit than they deserve. I don't foresee those who identify as Trump Humpers (99.9% of conservatives) as being any less racist and homophobic 50 years from now as they are today. That includes any who are still alive and any new ones that come along during that time. You just don't go all in on bigotry like that and then wash it away in a generation. All that you will peel off are the Bill Kristol types who just want to go back to a simpler time when Republicans merely grifted the public over economic issues.
                            That's what I was getting at. I work around a lot of people younger than me, and they're spouting that Moozlim/Porch Monkey racism with the best of them. Big time Trumpers, all of them.
                            What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                            • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              It's the death scream of a failed people -- a morally dead culture. They will eventually try to take us all with them via nuclear annihilation. Contain them and let them expire.
                              Or we could assimilate them through marriage and the establishment of liberal settlements within red districts in the rural south and midwest.

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                              • Re: SCOTUS 14: Confirming a Rabid Partisan to Own the Libs

                                Originally posted by burd View Post
                                Or we could assimilate them through marriage and the establishment of liberal settlements within red districts in the rural south and midwest.
                                I guess. I'm not sure why we'd bother. When Darwin hands you a win, take it.
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