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  • #76
    Re: Darwinism

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Dr. Mrs. got her nephew this and her sister gave her a look of utter withering hatred.

    Then she realized it also had synthesizer sirens.
    It's either that or a tuba.
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    • #77
      Re: Darwinism

      Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
      It hasn’t been but the last 30 years we’ve even started to explore gender for what it really is.
      Cultural conceptions of sex and gender change every couple generations and have for all of human history. It's been a drunkard's walk -- it isn't anything like "progress." The idea that there was a single stable set of gender norms before the 80s is utter poppycock. Today isn't the endpoint of a trend, it's just a local maximum before the next inflection point.

      See also: liberty, race, justice, theology, government, equality, law, philosophy, and every other human cultural creation.

      All this has happened before, and it will happen again.
      Last edited by Kepler; 10-29-2019, 10:24 PM.
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      • #78
        Re: Darwinism

        Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post
        What if I bought a drum set?
        Win.
        When I was a lil' un, my aunt bought my brother and me fire helmets. With working sirens. She was on the sh* list for years.
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        • #79
          Re: Darwinism

          Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post
          It's either that or a tuba.
          If you find a kid with the lungs for a tuba you better send them to Cornell. We could use her.
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          • #80
            Re: Darwinism

            No no no, you pick one of the scholarship instruments. Bassoon or English horn.
            the state of hockey is good

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            • #81
              Re: Darwinism

              Originally posted by state of hockey View Post
              No no no, you pick one of the scholarship instruments. Bassoon or English horn.
              Infancy is probably too early for electric bass.
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              • #82
                Re: Darwinism

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                Nobody's worrying, we're just laughing when confronted with the immeasurable vanity of our fellow primates.

                Don't you worry. Nobody will ever interfere with the inalienable and sacred right of expectant parents to make as-ses of themselves.
                The lady doth...

                I'm not the one making countless posts about other people's vanity. I am with you - I think they're stupid and vapid at the very least, but it's no skin off my back.

                Oh and you're a tremendous slouch.

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                • #83
                  Re: Darwinism

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  Cultural conceptions of sex and gender change every couple generations and have for all of human history. It's been a drunkard's walk -- it isn't anything like "progress." The idea that there was a single stable set of gender norms before the 80s is utter poppycock. Today isn't the endpoint of a trend, it's just a local maximum before the next inflection point.

                  See also: liberty, race, justice, theology, government, equality, law, philosophy, and every other human cultural creation.

                  All this has happened before, and it will happen again.
                  Isn’t that what I said?
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                  When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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                  • #84
                    Re: Darwinism

                    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                    Isn’t that what I said?
                    My interpretation was you said the last 30 years are something special -- the first time in human history we've been "really" studying it. If that's not what you meant then, sure, as you were.
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                    • #85
                      Re: Darwinism

                      Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                      The lady doth...

                      I'm not the one making countless posts about other people's vanity. I am with you - I think they're stupid and vapid at the very least, but it's no skin off my back.

                      Oh and you're a tremendous slouch.
                      Didn't want to do it. Felt I owed it to them.
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                      • #86
                        Re: Darwinism

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        My interpretation was you said the last 30 years are something special -- the first time in human history we've been "really" studying it. If that's not what you meant then, sure, as you were.
                        I guess I meant the last 30 years we’ve started to study it.

                        But rereading your post, I suppose you have a point about norms changing. But I figured for the first time we have science backing up current norms. Maybe there isn’t an endpoint. But at least the next thirty years look brighter than the last 10,000.

                        Edit, of course, by “we” I mean people who don’t eat their shirts.
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                        Originally posted by SanTropez
                        May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                        Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                        I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                        Originally posted by Kepler
                        When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                        He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                        • #87
                          Re: Darwinism

                          Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                          I guess I meant the last 30 years we’ve started to study it.

                          But rereading your post, I suppose you have a point about norms changing. But I figured for the first time we have science backing up current norms. Maybe there isn’t an endpoint. But at least the next thirty years look brighter than the last 10,000.

                          Edit, of course, by “we” I mean people who don’t eat their shirts.
                          Science has very little to do with this, though. It's the old is/ought wall. Regardless of facts, human beings (writ large; not our minority that was grown in an academic test tube) are just going to keep on turning out meanings and norms. Science is GREAT for making predictions about physical systems so we can stick a satellite into orbit around Saturn. For how people assign values it means doodly-squat, because values are completely arbitrary. All men are equal (or not). Wait, I mean women, too (or not). Oh, and let's not reduce that to a dichotomy (or not). These are all things we collectively agree to believe, like rules of a sport. They change with the tides. Human values are informed by deep, deep churnings in the magma. Our rationalizations are fragile plates that float on the surface.
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                          • #88
                            Re: Darwinism

                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            Didn't want to do it. Felt I owed it to them.
                            Porhterhouse!

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                            • #89
                              Re: Darwinism

                              Nature isn't cute and it isn't your friend.
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                              • #90
                                Re: Darwinism

                                Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post
                                What if I bought a drum set?
                                One of my brothers (no kids) bought the "DJ Duck" for our nephew, the youngest child of the brother just older than me. This toy would light up, twirl, and play a loud, obnoxious "music" for around 30 seconds. Our nephew loved it, and his parents hated it. As soon as the batteries went dead, the toy was "broken" and found its way to a landfill. I'm a little scared to see what comes my way. My brothers are creative in spreading parental misery.
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