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  • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    The Hill People / Valley People stuff in that part of the world is interesting. Dr. Mrs. knew a Polish diplomat who after a couple drinks would go on and on about how everything was the Ruthenians' fault. All three groups (Poles, Ukrainians, Belorussians) hate each other but are stone cold terrified of both the Russians and Germans. It's Europe's Norris Division.
    Which is what killed the Polish/Ukraine partnership in the 20s before Joe Stalin got his claws into the Ukraine.
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    • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

      Originally posted by joecct View Post
      Which is what killed the Polish/Ukraine partnership in the 20s before Joe Stalin got his claws into the Ukraine.
      Whom the Gods would destroy they first give nationalism.
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      • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        Whom the Gods would destroy they first give nationalism.
        After I become president, do you want SecState?
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        • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

          Originally posted by joecct View Post
          After I become president, do you want SecState?
          Lots to do before then.
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          • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            Thank you, Neville Chamberlain.

            Ukraine seems like it's really two countries. As much as the west wants to be West the east wants to be East.
            Correct, and Transnistria would also like to align with Moscow, but is politically stuck with Moldova.

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              Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
              Correct, and Transnistria would also like to align with Moscow, but is politically stuck with Moldova.
              I was in an Indianapolis hotel in 2006 on a work trip and the desk clerk had "Moldova" on her name tag (she was also a 9, because Moldova). I started talking to her about Transdniestria and she looked like she would have left her job and followed me anywhere. I assume 99.9% of Americans, and 100% of Indianans, had absolutely zero idea about what Moldova was. Perhaps some goth thought it was Moldavia.

              Anyway, if Ukraine split as in the graphic, Transdniestria could just latch on to Russia because it is directly adjacent. Everybody wins.

              Maybe we can unload the American South on Putin while we're at it.
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              • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                I was in an Indianapolis hotel in 2006 on a work trip and the desk clerk had "Moldova" on her name tag (she was also a 9, because Moldova). I started talking to her about Transdniestria and she looked like she would have left her job and followed me anywhere.
                Pleasant surprise does not constitute sexual interest, Kep.

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                • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                  Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                  Pleasant surprise does not constitute sexual interest, Kep.
                  Not under most circumstances, but imagine if it had been years since you elicited even pleasant surprise.

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                  • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    I was in an Indianapolis hotel in 2006 on a work trip and the desk clerk had "Moldova" on her name tag (she was also a 9, because Moldova). I started talking to her about Transdniestria and she looked like she would have left her job and followed me anywhere. I assume 99.9% of Americans, and 100% of Indianans, had absolutely zero idea about what Moldova was. Perhaps some goth thought it was Moldavia..
                    anyone who saw Red knows "moldova sucks"
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                    • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                      Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                      Pleasant surprise does not constitute sexual interest, Kep.
                      It does if you're a European stuck in Indiana.
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                      • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        It does if you're a European stuck in Indiana.
                        Presumably she married some upper-middle class old dude to get stuck there, and was looking for the earliest opportunity to put strychnine in his Metamucil.

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                        • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                          Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                          Presumably she married some upper-middle class old dude to get stuck there, and was looking for the earliest opportunity to put strychnine in his Metamucil.
                          Leave Dump out of this.
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                          • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                            Presumably she married some upper-middle class old dude to get stuck there, and was looking for the earliest opportunity to put strychnine in his Metamucil.
                            Or, she was a secret operative for the KGB, trading sexual favors with high level mid- western GOP operatives in return for information.
                            What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                            • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                              Originally posted by rufus View Post
                              Or, she was a secret operative for the KGB, trading sexual favors with high level mid- western GOP operatives in return for information.
                              If that's the case she drew a really sh-tty assignment. Although I assume she could have run into Mike Pence there.
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                              • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

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