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  • #586
    Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

    Originally posted by rufus View Post
    But not thin-skinned.

    Do you think the wingnuts will ever admit that Hillary was right all along about this guy? Will Sicatoka or Hovey? Any other of the so-called centrists?

    I'm guessing no.
    Sicatoka is still waiting for a manila envelope to tell him that Trump is actually stupid and not playing 3D chess.
    "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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    • #587
      Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

      Originally posted by Handyman View Post
      Sicatoka is still waiting for a manila envelope to tell him that Trump is actually stupid and not playing 3D chess.
      100D chess! The J stands for jenius.

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      • #588
        Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

        Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
        The J stands for jenius.
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        • #589
          Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

          Trump wants foreign nations with military bases to pay "Cost + 50" for the "priviledge" of hosting US troops and military equipment.

          “Demolish the bridges behind you… then there is no choice but to build again.”

          Live Radio from 100.3

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          • #590
            Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

            Originally posted by aparch View Post
            Trump wants foreign nations with military bases to pay "Cost + 50" for the "priviledge" of hosting US troops and military equipment.
            LOL. Dumpy still doesn't understand that those troops are the Fortune 500's forward deployment force. Somebody from the 1% needs to 'splain to him that it's how they con the US taxpayer into paying for their gunboat diplomacy.
            Last edited by Kepler; 03-08-2019, 09:20 AM.
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            • #591
              Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

              History shows again and again
              How Nature points up the folly of man
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              • #592
                Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                interesting admission here: https://t.co/MkLWs80o4a


                EDIT: I post this because i’m Entirely skeptical of the Venezuela (cough, cia coup) story and how we’re soooo interested in imposing freedom and democracy (yes, sarcasm since we have to say it) there but the same people pushing for the coup could not give two flying ****s about Flint, Mi or Puerto Rico or healthcare.
                Last edited by solovsfett; 03-17-2019, 10:49 AM.
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                "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

                "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

                Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!

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                • #593
                  Originally posted by solovsfett View Post
                  interesting admission here: https://t.co/MkLWs80o4a


                  EDIT: I post this because i’m Entirely skeptical of the Venezuela (cough, cia coup) story and how we’re soooo interested in imposing freedom and democracy (yes, sarcasm since we have to say it) there but the same people pushing for the coup could not give two flying ****s about Flint, Mi or Puerto Rico or healthcare.
                  Leave your conspiracy bullshiat in the conspiracy thread.

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                  • #594
                    Originally posted by unofan View Post
                    Leave your conspiracy bullshiat in the conspiracy thread.
                    I read about the cia, they did overthrow mossadegh, arbenz and more and killed jfk, hired Maheu to kill RFK etc. that’s not theory it’s fact. I cannot and will not avoid that anymore.

                    ALSO, did you even listen to what she said?

                    Venezuela is a perfect current example of a cia coup.
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                    "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

                    "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

                    Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!

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                    • #595
                      Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                      Originally posted by unofan View Post
                      Leave your conspiracy bullshiat in the conspiracy thread.
                      I mean, kind of?

                      Wolf herself isn't actually saying anything conspiratorial in the clip. We do use intel agents working with DOS, DOD, and NGOs to propagandize both foreign and domestic audiences. Remember the DOD was proven to have seeded network and cable news with agents in the run up to the Gulf War to control/create American public opinion.

                      Every country tries to do this. Ours is really, really good at it because they've been using marketing best practices ever since those practices were invented in the 1930s. This is not news. Governments lie all the time.

                      Having said which: the over the top conspiracy wrapper is kinda dumb, if only because it takes something real and drapes it in the kind of breathless clicks BS formatting you'd see from InfoWars. ("Well, clearly, presenting it this way is part of the conspiracy..." Yeah, yeah, pass the Iocane powder.)

                      Likewise, what Carlin is saying is also true. He's saying (1) the rich own our government and (2) the rich don't give a sh-t about anybody but themselves. That doesn't really have a bearing on Venezuela beyond the overarching disgrace of the plutocratic control of our government. Again, I object to Saint George getting the cut rate conspiracy stink on him by his inclusion in this.
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                      • #596
                        Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                        Originally posted by solovsfett View Post
                        Venezuela is a perfect current example of a cia coup.
                        Again... kinda.

                        1. Times have changed. Neither Putin nor Dump actually want a stable socialist or capitalist Venezuela. It is in both of their interests for it to be a failed state roiled with unrest, because that creates the type of violence and risk that strongmen use to tighten their grip on power.

                        2. DOS, DOD and the intel agencies are still run by career pros who know what they are doing. The politicals you've heard of are morons, and perhaps borderline psychopathic (paging John Bolton), but they don't oversee day-to-day ops and they don't really know much beyond their Hoover/RAND BS theses. Add that this administration both reviles and is reviled by competent public servants, and you get a recipe for absolutely nothing being accomplished. You know that whole Deep State thingamabob that keeps Flaggy up at night? Those are the guys that a rogue rightwing faction within our government used to use to murder a foreign leader* and without them they are powerless.

                        * or an American President
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                        • #597
                          Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                          Did you guys know Chelsea Clinton caused the massacre in New Zealand? God people are dumb.

                          Btw Liberals attacked her for it...
                          "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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                          • #598
                            Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                            Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                            Did you guys know Chelsea Clinton caused the massacre in New Zealand? God people are dumb.

                            Btw Liberals attacked her for it...
                            The best lack all conviction, while the worst
                            Are full of passionate intensity

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                            • #599
                              Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                              It's fascinating that Obama was vilified by the right for not saying "Radical Islamic Terrorism" but Trump can't be bothered to call White Nationalists, White Nationalists.
                              **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                              Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                              Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                              • #600
                                Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                                I'm surprised Dump doesn't say, "Now, I don't condone terrorists but terrorists who are inspired by me really get the job done. I mean, 50 dead? That's pretty good."
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