Gender Studies I

[Kepler]

Re: Gender Studies I

What does it say that my best friends are all older women I call Mama?

That you've had a rough couple of years and could use a hug.

Take as long as you need.

[The Rube]

Re: Gender Studies I

What does it say that my best friends are all older women I call Mama?

So be it.

[MissThundercat]

Re: Gender Studies I

That you've had a rough couple of years and could use a hug.

Take as long as you need.

And when I'm not with them, my very best friend is a 67 year old trans woman named Shelby. She's more than my best friend; she's my Strictly Platonic Lifemate. Ever look at someone and realize "I'm supposed to have you in my life?" That's her.

[Kepler]

Re: Gender Studies I

Ever look at someone and realize "I'm supposed to have you in my life?"

Yes.

[MissThundercat]

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I noticed something: when I first came out and even started hormones, most of the conservatives in my life were like "okay, cool. We may not understand, but we support you."

Then I gained confidence and started speaking out.

The conservatives started saying "stay pretty. Pass as cis. BUT WOULD YOU PLEASE SHUT THE HELL UP?"

I have no plans to shut up any time soon. Not when people in Holland (MI) think such a thing as "heterophobia" exists.

[MissThundercat]

Re: Gender Studies I

Men, I'll give you credit: you are GREAT at opening jars!

[MissThundercat]

Re: Gender Studies I

Wow...there's a lot of bull**** to unpack here. https://t.co/2VwJihU9AJ

— Faith Naff #BlackLivesMatter (@FaithNaff) June 6, 2020

In short, JK Rowling has been on twitter lately saying "I love trans people, but trans women aren't women."

[Kepler]

Re: Gender Studies I

I was going to say leave the poor old broad alone but, Jesus, she's younger than I.

Nature has a cure for the inability to adapt to changes in culture. Built-in life span.

I doubt any, let alone many, prominent black civil rights leaders in the 60s would have accepted LGBTQ appeals for respect. Many pioneering women's rights activists did not accept gays. Many pioneering gay activists did not accept trans people.

They fought, they won, they then became the oppressive status quo, then they died.

Someday we will win, we will become the oppressive status quo, and we will die.

In 200 years people will look back at us with horror for whatever it is we're doing right now that's horrible that we don't even know.

That's the way it works. Do your best and sleep the sleep of the just. All we can do is move the ball down the field in the humane direction, and fight the right's attempt to push it back towards their supernatural dominance hellscape.

[MissThundercat]

Re: Gender Studies I

I was going to say leave the poor old broad alone but, Jesus, she's younger than I.

Nature has a cure for the inability to adapt to changes in culture. Built-in life span.

I doubt any, let alone many, prominent black civil rights leaders in the 60s would have accepted LGBTQ appeals for respect. Many pioneering women's rights activists did not accept gays. Many pioneering gay activists did not accept trans people.

They fought, they won, they then became the oppressive status quo, then they died.

Someday we will win, we will become the oppressive status quo, and we will die.

In 200 years people will look back at us with horror for whatever it is we're doing right now that's horrible that we don't even know.

That's the way it works. Do your best and sleep the sleep of the just. All we can do is move the ball down the field in the humane direction, and fight the right's attempt to push it back towards their supernatural dominance hellscape.

She's been doing this for awhile. I never had a desire to read Harry Potter before; I definitely don't have a desire to read Harry Potter now.

[Kepler]

Re: Gender Studies I

I never had any desire to read them. I got everything I needed from the 10% version, A Wizard of Earthsea, 40 years ago. The 1% version, The Glass Bead Game, is still percolating in my head.

[MissThundercat]

Re: Gender Studies I

And the amusing thing about all this is that trans people have tried to tell the cis Rowling is a TERF for years, but we kept being told we didn't know what we were talking about.

Do you believe us now?

[Kepler]

Re: Gender Studies I

I'm not sure Rowling qualifies for the "R." She may just be a TEF.

[MissThundercat]

Re: Gender Studies I

I'm not sure Rowling qualifies for the "R." She may just be a TEF.

According to trans people, she does.

[MissThundercat]

Re: Gender Studies I

Even after reading her full Twitter rant, some people will still be like "she's not a TERF! You're just making stuff up! You don't know what you're talking about!"

Part of being an ally/accomplice means sitting down and listening to us. If you're not going to listen, get out of here. If you're going to speak over me and speak for me, get out of here.

People telling me Rowling is not a TERF is why I rooted for Magneto.

[Kepler]

Re: Gender Studies I

According to trans people, she does.

I'm not arguing she's not TE.