Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

[walrus]

Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Instead of all those depressing stories about cops
http://www.wlbz2.com/news/local/skow...home/364643407

[Handyman]

Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Instead of all those depressing stories about cops
http://www.wlbz2.com/news/local/skow...home/364643407

Awesome!

[The Sicatoka]

Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

We're those "water cannons" or fire hoses to put out the vehicle that protesters lit on fire on a bridge on a state highway?

The Morton County Sheriff's Office does not have "concussion grenades". They do have flash-bangs. They admit that much.

There is proof that woman that has the severe arm injury may have been in the process of configuring an IED under a bridge.

And this is about "the water". Imagine a camp of 5000 people with no sanitary services for waste in the flood watershed that will go into the Standing Rock intake in the spring. Yummy.
http://www.inforum.com/opinion/41678...otest-festival

And now Standing Rock Chair Archambeau has asked the protesters to go home.
https://www.sayanythingblog.com/entr...acts-violence/

Rob Port is probably the most conservative blogger in ND (and I can't believe I'm giving him any acknowledgement because he hates all North Dakota universities) and is in the pocket of Al "We can beat the NCAA!" Carlson, the loony head of the Rs in the ND House.

Given that reference point, Port's done a pretty good job of documenting events as they've happened. And he's a glutton for punishment on Twitter.

Look through all the "North Dakota" articles on Port's site: https://www.sayanythingblog.com/

[Handyman]

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No they werent. There was no fires when they were spraying the protesters at night. (the fires would be visible)

I assume you didnt watch the video in the link since your concern trolling would be moot if you had. That would be Trump level cognitive dissonance (lets just say it answers all your questions and not in ways you will enjoy)

And of course the Tribes want the protesters off the land now...they won the pipeline is being moved there isno need to stay there. Nice reach though

[The Sicatoka]

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No they werent. There was no fires when they were spraying the protesters at night. (the fires would be visible)

I assume you didnt watch the video in the link since your concern trolling would be moot if you had. That would be Trump level cognitive dissonance (lets just say it answers all your questions and not in ways you will enjoy)

And of course the Tribes want the protesters off the land now...they won the pipeline is being moved there isno need to stay there. Nice reach though

Concern trolling? No, that's you. I'm the taxpayer holding the bag on this one. We're at $7 million in costs to the State for this little event.

But, back to the issue: OK, then what the heck is Rob Port claiming here. And, gee, there's the fire ...
https://www.sayanythingblog.com/entr...kwater-bridge/


PS - I have $20 that says Trump approves the existing permit and easement at about 1800 hours on Jan 20. It just seems so ... Trump.

PPS - As with everything that turns political, the truth is somewhere in the middle. The trick is to find it. Port's had the MCSO's side the whole time; Snopes has the #NoDAPL's. Triangulate from there.

[SJHovey]

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No they werent. There was no fires when they were spraying the protesters at night. (the fires would be visible)

I assume you didnt watch the video in the link since your concern trolling would be moot if you had. That would be Trump level cognitive dissonance (lets just say it answers all your questions and not in ways you will enjoy)

And of course the Tribes want the protesters off the land now...they won the pipeline is being moved there isno need to stay there. Nice reach though

I personally think the water soaking was a great response by law enforcement. You have to admit, given what we've seen around this country with how other law enforcement agencies have handled protests, a response that really only involves making it rain on these people in order to get the protesters to "choose" to leave because they are now cold and wet is pretty tame. You can only arrest and release so many people, and given the fact that at least one protester, if not more, resorted to discharging firearms, I think it's pretty good that all the sheriff's department did is give them a good soaking on a night when it was pretty cold out. The sheriff's department kept their powder dry, if not the protesters.

[The Sicatoka]

Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Water cannon?
Why do that when the evil cops have such powerful other resources available.

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/p...ne-protesters/


Given that power, would this be considered "house arrest"?
http://www.fox5ny.com/news/222162787-story

[SJHovey]

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PS - I have $20 that says Trump approves the existing permit and easement at about 1800 hours on Jan 20. It just seems so ... Trump.

What I find kind of funny is this.

This article has a small map of North Dakota (you have to scroll down a little ways) that includes the pipelines presently in place. Click on the "view bigger map" button to get a full flavor of the existing pipelines in North Dakota.

Then superimpose a map of the state that shows the current location of Native American tribes and their land in North Dakota, and the location of the Missouri River and the lakes created by various dams.

You will see there are, by my count, at least three existing oil pipelines located on the Fort Berthold tribal land, and who knows how many crossing the Missouri River, which is the exact same river they seek to cross south of Mandan near the Standing Rock tribal land.

I guess it's only "sacred ground" when they are not pumping oil out of it or creating jobs on your land with that oil.

[The Sicatoka]

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What I find kind of funny is this.

This article has a small map of North Dakota (you have to scroll down a little ways) that includes the pipelines presently in place. Click on the "view bigger map" button to get a full flavor of the existing pipelines in North Dakota.

Then superimpose a map of the state that shows the current location of Native American tribes and their land in North Dakota, and the location of the Missouri River and the lakes created by various dams.

You will see there are, by my count, at least three existing oil pipelines located on the Fort Berthold tribal land, and who knows how many crossing the Missouri River, which is the exact same river they seek to cross south of Mandan near the Standing Rock tribal land.

The Northern Border (gas) pipeline has been there since the 1980s (map link above). And there's already a high voltage transmission line in that same easement. That existing easement path is what was approved for DAPL. Yes, they put DAPL in the existing energy easement.

Better?
The DAPL already crosses the Missouri River north of the Spirit Lake intake, and north of Bismarck, about 12 miles above the water intake for Williston, ND.
See P2 of 5 here: http://www.energytransfer.com/docume...s_Counties.pdf

[MaizeRage]

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Oh, now facts matter?

Clearly these people understand something about the pipeline that you just don't get.

[SonofSouthie]

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Wasn't too sure where to put this but here it is. The story is fkd up enough but when I read further down and found the rapist pos got only 16 years probation that kinda chapped my ***.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/loc...itation_bid_to

[The Sicatoka]

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Clearly these people understand something about the pipeline that you just don't get.

I see.
So all that work I did for Enbridge (via the ND Pipeline Company) during the Bakken boom doesn't count.

[MaizeRage]

Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

I see.
So all that work I did for Enbridge (via the ND Pipeline Company) during the Bakken boom doesn't count.

Maybe they don't want some elite telling them what to do. You just don't get it.

[The Sicatoka]

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Maybe they don't want some elite telling them what to do. You just don't get it.

Well, you might be right. Are outside elites telling Standing Rock to protest this?
Chase Iron Eyes (Standing Rock tribe member and recent D nominee for ND's US House seat) says, “The local voice is not the voice controlling this.”
https://www.sayanythingblog.com/entr...apl-not-local/

[The Sicatoka]

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Standing Rock also had ample opportunity to let their concerns be known during the public hearing and permitting process.

There they could've told any and every one (ND PSC, the Army Corps) to shove it. Instead ...

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers "documented dozens of attempts it made to consult with the Standing Rock Sioux from the fall of 2014 through the spring of 2016," federal Judge James Boasberg, an Obama appointee, wrote in September.

"Suffice it to say that the Tribe largely refused to engage in consultations," he continued.

The tribe also did not engage the State of North Dakota when the Public Service Commission was reviewing the pipeline. They showed for not a single meeting about the pipeline, nor did they submit any written testimony to the PSC.

"It is still difficult for me to understand why the tribe didn't intervene in the process and have a seat at the table," Commissioner Julie Fedorchak told reporter Amy Dalrymple.

http://www.inforum.com/4170712-port-...ion-irrelevant