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  • Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    I've had 7 cats in my life. And I love my cats. But they're as dumb as a stump.
    Cats are smart to their own means and ends. They care not about how we mostly-hairless apes perceive them. We're merely here to serve and amuse them.

    The smartest four-legged creature I've known was a German shepherd. I swear that dog knew and understood chain of command around the farm: hired hand's son, hired hand, farmer's sons (youngest to oldest), farmer, nice lady who lives in farm house and puts steak instead of kibble in bowl on Sundays (i.e. farmer's wife). He only listened to the highest ranking on that list present at the time. He was an awesome dog.
    The preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.

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    • Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

      Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
      Cats are smart to their own means and ends. They care not about how we mostly-hairless apes perceive them. We're merely here to serve and amuse them.
      Cats are wise, but not smart. If you have already mastered The Way, you don't need the ladder.
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      • Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

        Originally posted by joecct View Post
        I can try to live my life under those two principles. Hopefully if more people did, then weight of numbers would prevail.
        I would buy that (maybe) if I felt most of those attending church right along side me all these years weren't just as corrupt, amoral, deceitful and full of crap as some of those that don't.

        It's similar to why I as a Christian think God would vehemently defend a monogamous homosexual marriage that was filled with love and respect - especially in light of the fact heterosexuals have done far more damage to the "sanctity" of it than any homosexual could ever in 100 lifetimes try to approach.

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        • Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

          Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
          I would buy that (maybe) if I felt most of those attending church right along side me all these years weren't just as corrupt, amoral, deceitful and full of crap as some of those that don't.
          Yeah, but that's not the fault of the religion. Says right there in the Preamble that we are all sinners. Religion doesn't make us any less sinful -- it just puts our sinfulness into the proper context as a flaw marring our ideal form in the sight of God. It's like teaching us cursive writing by starting us with a page of perfectly formed letters. We then do our best, and the people who have come before us along the path try to help us by showing us what worked for them, or how they avoided certain pitfalls. "Bend your hand a little more out and that makes the arcs of the b and d more regular..."

          The proper comparison is not between religious and non-religious people. It is looking at the life of the believer and seeing if he improves over time.
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          • Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            Yeah, but that's not the fault of the religion. Says right there in the Preamble that we are all sinners. Religion doesn't make us any less sinful -- it just puts our sinfulness into the proper context as a flaw marring our ideal form in the sight of God. It's like teaching us cursive writing by starting us with a page of perfectly formed letters. We then do our best, and the people who have come before us along the path try to help us by showing us what worked for them, or how they avoided certain pitfalls. "Bend your hand a little more out and that makes the arcs of the b and d more regular..."

            The proper comparison is not between religious and non-religious people. It is looking at the life of the believer and seeing if he improves over time.
            My point was God/religion doesn't in and of itself lead to a more 'righteous' outcome.

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            • Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

              Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
              My point was God/religion doesn't in and of itself lead to a more 'righteous' outcome.
              Only if you're using a religion, even in it's broadest terms, to control a population.

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              • Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

                To get back to the topic, I hadn't heard this before. Powerful and interesting, and that ending... wow .
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                • Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

                  Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                  My point was God/religion doesn't in and of itself lead to a more 'righteous' outcome.
                  Religiosity is neither a necessary nor sufficient factor in the acquisition of morality: what causes one to be 'righteous' is an independent factor in their character. Some people have come to a moral awakening through faith while others have come to it via love, family, self-reflection, suffering...

                  Religion should be studied as an efficacious (or not) technique for living a good life -- eudaimonia.
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                  • Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

                    We're trying to get to the same point I just use fewer words when posting from my phone.

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                    • Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

                      Black Lady Calls Cops Cause Neighbor Manhandles Son...Gets Arrested Cause Cop is annoyed
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                      • Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

                        Nothing in that video suggests the cop did anything wrong other than the accounting of the 'victims'. Maybe if people would remain calm and not scream at cops they'd get better results.

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                        • Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

                          Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                          Nothing in that video suggests the cop did anything wrong other than the accounting of the 'victims'. Maybe if people would remain calm and not scream at cops they'd get better results.
                          Maybe...maybe if the cop didnt suggest the neighbor had the right to manhandle her kid she wouldnt have been so incensed. (and the officer did by questioning why the neighbor didnt have the right to do so to the lady)

                          While the video is definitely jumpy...nothing suggests she should have been arrested. And why did nothing happen to the neighbor who was the reason for this call? The cop was being a dick...
                          "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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                          "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
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                          • Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

                            I agree the cop should not have said it was ok for the kid to be grabbed, but if the lady had remained calm she wouldn't have got arrested. At least one lady can be seen getting aggressive with a cop about halfway into the video. My guess is she got up on him which was stupid because he had already made it clear he was probably not going to favor their side of things. So yeah he was a dick, but she was an idiot.
                            Last edited by Slap Shot; 12-23-2016, 09:43 AM.

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                            • Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

                              Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                              if the lady had remained calm she wouldn't have got arrested.
                              Let this marinate.

                              Is this going to be our standard going forward?
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                              • Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                Let this marinate.

                                Is this going to be our standard going forward?
                                At least 1 if not 2 people appear to be 'wrestling' with a cop about 40 seconds into that clip. Also the person with the camera didn't film everything so who knows how much was missed? That's what I meant by "remaining calm".
                                Last edited by Slap Shot; 12-23-2016, 10:26 AM.

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