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  • #541
    Re: Game of Thrones Season 6: Lions and Wolves and Sand Snakes, oh my!

    Originally posted by bigblue_dl View Post
    First, **** the Greyjoys. The fact that we had to waste time on Theon's redemption story bugs me, and that is probably the only part of this episode that does bug me. Theon has had enough chances, and I hope that Euron slits his throat.

    As for Gendry, I would think that he would get Storm's End, the ancestral seat of the Baratheon family, and the Durrandons before that. Dragonstone is the ancestral seat of the Targaryens, so it wouldn't make sense for Gendry to have it. That will end up being Aegon and Danerys's vacation love shack.
    I'm fairly confident that the only reason people are surviving at this point is because they have a purpose in getting us to episode 73. It's why Littlefinger died. His purpose was fulfilled. The Vale had to be united again under the Starks and he was the instrument that accomplished that. Like you told me on Friday, they're done with character development. At this point it's about getting to the end.

    Theon and Yara have something else to give the plot. Or, this was the last time we saw either of them and season eight starts with a shot of their bodies floating on the open ocean.
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    • #542
      Re: Game of Thrones Season 6: Lions and Wolves and Sand Snakes, oh my!

      Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
      Theon and Yara have something else to give the plot. Or, this was the last time we saw either of them and season eight starts with a shot of their bodies floating on the open ocean.
      Hopefully this. Or, we just never see them again, because Theon's arc is complete once he actually takes the action to go save his sister, regardless of what happens. I just really don't want to see any Greyjoy not named Euron again.
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      • #543
        Re: Game of Thrones Season 6: Lions and Wolves and Sand Snakes, oh my!

        Originally posted by bigblue_dl View Post
        Jaime raped Cersei when they were viewing Joffrey's body. I don't recall what season it was, maybe season 5?
        It wasn't so much a rape as it was a poorly filmed sequence. The producers had a post mortem interview on that scene, I forget where I read it, and they said that they just didn't capture the pages from the book correctly on the screen. They didn't see it as rape before it aired because they knew the source material, but understood why people thought that who haven't read the books - because they got the execution of the scene all wrong.
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        • #544
          Re: Game of Thrones Season 6: Lions and Wolves and Sand Snakes, oh my!

          Originally posted by bigblue_dl View Post
          Also, I found it very interesting, and quite awesome that Sandor and Gregor stood toe to toe and they were the same height. They make Gregor look so big all the time, but Sandor Clegane is a ****ing huge dude as well.
          I was very surprised by this too.
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          • #545
            Re: Game of Thrones Season 6: Lions and Wolves and Sand Snakes, oh my!

            Originally posted by bigblue_dl View Post
            First, **** the Greyjoys. The fact that we had to waste time on Theon's redemption story bugs me, and that is probably the only part of this episode that does bug me. Theon has had enough chances, and I hope that Euron slits his throat.
            The only reason to have spent so much screen time on Theon lo these many years is to set up his redemption.

            More importantly and pathetically, that scene was supposed to highlight Jon's leadership skills and essential goodness, neither of which are real. Jon is a sniveling adolescent Mary Sue for all the sniveling adolescents who have identified with themes of Personal Honor and Sacrifice and been merrily fed into the meat grinder by men far wiser and more sane than they, in all ages.
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            • #546
              Re: Game of Thrones Season 6: Lions and Wolves and Sand Snakes, oh my!

              Originally posted by MinnesotaNorthStar View Post
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              • #547
                Re: Game of Thrones Season 6: Lions and Wolves and Sand Snakes, oh my!

                Jon bringing up the "You can be a Greyjoy, and a Stark" to Theon is foreshadowing to Jon when he can be a Stark and a Targaryen. That's what that scene was for.
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                • #548
                  Re: Game of Thrones Season 6: Lions and Wolves and Sand Snakes, oh my!

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  The only reason to have spent so much screen time on Theon lo these many years is to set up his redemption.

                  More importantly and pathetically, that scene was supposed to highlight Jon's leadership skills and essential goodness, neither of which are real. Jon is a sniveling adolescent Mary Sue for all the sniveling adolescents who have identified with themes of Personal Honor and Sacrifice and been merrily fed into the meat grinder by men far wiser and more sane than they, in all ages.
                  I just assumed he was around to produce a rightful heir to the throne. Since he probably got that job done last night, all that's left is some sort of spectacular death.
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                  • #549
                    Re: Game of Thrones Season 6: Lions and Wolves and Sand Snakes, oh my!

                    Originally posted by Gurtholfin View Post
                    Aegon?


                    Wow. Goalie bow.
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                    • #550
                      Re: Game of Thrones Season 6: Lions and Wolves and Sand Snakes, oh my!

                      Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                      I just assumed he was around to produce a rightful heir to the throne. Since he probably got that job done last night, all that's left is some sort of spectacular death.
                      I'm rooting for an ignominious death. Maybe Brienne falls on him and he's stabbed with his own sword.
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                      • #551
                        Re: Game of Thrones Season 6: Lions and Wolves and Sand Snakes, oh my!

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        Wow. Goalie bow.

                        Borrowed.

                        Wish I had come up with it though.

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                        • #552
                          Re: Game of Thrones Season 6: Lions and Wolves and Sand Snakes, oh my!

                          Originally posted by bronconick View Post
                          Jon bringing up the "You can be a Greyjoy, and a Stark" to Theon is foreshadowing to Jon when he can be a Stark and a Targaryen. That's what that scene was for.
                          That scene was fine, the Greyjoy beach scene was where it was went too far.
                          Having a clear conscience just means you have a bad memory or you had a boring weekend.

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                          • #553
                            Re: Game of Thrones Season 6: Lions and Wolves and Sand Snakes, oh my!

                            What are the odds that we see Little Finger marching against Winterfell next season? After all, they're still recruiting.
                            "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                            "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

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                            • #554
                              Re: Game of Thrones Season 6: Lions and Wolves and Sand Snakes, oh my!

                              Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                              What are the odds that we see Little Finger marching against Winterfell next season? After all, they're still recruiting.
                              They can bring back anybody who wasn't burned. Maybe Sean Bean needs the work.
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                              • #555
                                Re: Game of Thrones Season 6: Lions and Wolves and Sand Snakes, oh my!

                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                They can bring back anybody who wasn't burned. Maybe Sean Bean needs the work.
                                The difference being that Ned's all bones now, that's the only way jolly ol' King Joff was allowing him down from his spikes. So it wouldn't look much like him. Assuming no ability to seal coffins like we do today, most or all of the others in the crypt should be well on their way to dust by now. It's not really a dry, arid climate around Winterfell.
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                                "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

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