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  • #316
    Re: Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

    Originally posted by MinnesotaNorthStar View Post
    So you're getting on walrus' case for putting words in your mouth exactly one post after you just did the same thing with this?
    I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth.

    Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
    The StL case: given what we know, the cop acted correctly. He neutralized the threat. A tragedy, no doubt. A life was lost. I believe he acted correctly.
    The NY case: given that the ME said the hold (call it a chokehold, call it whatever you want) was NOT the cause of death, then despite what I think of that particular law (the loosie law), the cops acted correctly.
    The CLE case: He should be held accountable, as from what we know, he was in the wrong and acted very irresponsibly.
    Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
    I've never excused an unjust killing. That CLE cop should never have been on the force; that was a horrible incident with that kid.
    Sorry to pick on Brent, but that was in this thread. I'm sure I can find more by checking the other thread.

    Notice that his focus is on one cop, who "never should have been on the force" anyway. Well, it turns out that it was more than just that one cop, after all...

    That was my point. Not that "all cops are bad".

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    • #317
      Re: Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

      Originally posted by Priceless View Post
      I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth.
      Not once did Brent (or anyone else) say, he was the only bad cop out there, so yes, you are.
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      • #318
        Re: Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

        Originally posted by Priceless View Post
        That was my point. Not that "all cops are bad".
        So how many are? What would you estimate to be the percentage of cops nationwide that are "bad"?
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        • #319
          Re: Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

          Originally posted by busterman62 View Post
          So how many are? What would you estimate to be the percentage of cops nationwide that are "bad"?
          Same as all humans: 10 percent.

          Humanity basically breaks down along the 1:8:1 rule. 10% stupid, 10% intelligent, 80% average. 10% saint, 10% sociopath, 80% average.

          Why would cops be any different?

          According to this, there are 900k sworn police officers in the US. So, 90k bad cops.
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          • #320
            Re: Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

            My mistake. I forgot that there are no bad cops. It's just that "white guilt" kicking in again. Must have felt pangs after seeing a 14-year old girl knocked to the ground, cuffed and then forced to watch as her younger brother died. I have since taken my Soma and am just fine now.

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            • #321
              Re: Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              Same as all humans: 10 percent.

              Humanity basically breaks down along the 1:8:1 rule. 10% stupid, 10% intelligent, 80% average. 10% saint, 10% sociopath, 80% average.

              Why would cops be any different?

              According to this, there are 900k sworn police officers in the US. So, 90k bad cops.
              Never took stats in school but I would have pulled out 2.5% as the answer. Two standard deviations collecting 95% of the population, etc.
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              • #322
                Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                That's exactly what I said
                Correct.

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                • #323
                  Re: Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

                  Originally posted by busterman62 View Post
                  Never took stats in school but I would have pulled out 2.5% as the answer. Two standard deviations collecting 95% of the population, etc.
                  I was actually going to go with 1 sd (16/68/16) but I didn't want to clutter it.
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                  • #324
                    Re: Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

                    Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                    I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth.





                    Sorry to pick on Brent, but that was in this thread. I'm sure I can find more by checking the other thread.

                    Notice that his focus is on one cop, who "never should have been on the force" anyway. Well, it turns out that it was more than just that one cop, after all...

                    That was my point. Not that "all cops are bad".
                    You forgot to bold the "From what we know" (which, at THIS time, we have more information).

                    Keep derping, though.
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                    • #325
                      Re: Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

                      Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                      You forgot to bold the "From what we know" (which, at THIS time, we have more information).

                      Keep derping, though.
                      Everything is awesome!

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                      • #326
                        Re: Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

                        Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                        Everything is awesome!
                        Remember the Duke case, where the initial info had all but convicted the players? Then, you know, MORE info came out and things went completely sideways?

                        Huh. Amazing at how a lack of info/learning of more info changes things.
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                        • #327
                          Re: Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

                          Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                          Remember the Duke case, where the initial info had all but convicted the players? Then, you know, MORE info came out and things went completely sideways?

                          Huh. Amazing at how a lack of info/learning of more info changes things.
                          Yeah, we learned how awesome it was that the police tackled and handcuffed a 14 year old girl.

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                          • #328
                            Re: Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

                            Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                            Yeah, we learned how awesome it was that the police tackled and handcuffed a 14 year old girl.
                            And with that new information, I will say that more than just the original cop should be punished. Again, based on this new information only. See how this works?
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                            • #329
                              Re: Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

                              Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                              And with that new information, I will say that more than just the original cop should be punished. Again, based on this new information only. See how this works?
                              Awesome!

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                              • #330
                                Re: Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

                                NOT related to the CLE thing. I stress that:

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