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    Big Ten League?

    My understanding is that, if half of the Big Ten teams play Division 1 hockey, they must play as a league. Penn State would have made it 6 of 12 when they upgraded to varsity. Does the recent decision to add Maryland and Rutgers deep-six this requirement for now, or did it happen too late?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyJobu View Post
    My understanding is that, if half of the Big Ten teams play Division 1 hockey, they must play as a league. Penn State would have made it 6 of 12 when they upgraded to varsity. Does the recent decision to add Maryland and Rutgers deep-six this requirement for now, or did it happen too late?
    The rule is, there need to be six teams in order to have a Big Ten conference tournament. There isn't a 50% rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnstate0fhockey View Post
    The rule is, there need to be six teams in order to have a Big Ten conference tournament. There isn't a 50% rule.
    At least, that is what everyone thinks. Nobody can seem to find what the actual rule is. That being said, even if it were a 50% rule, the BTHC was formed when there was 6 of 12 programs. Not only that, but the conference begins play the year before Maryland and Rutgers come in, so the conference would be grandfathered in.

    To answer TheMightyJobu's question, it either didn't matter (under the theoretical 6 team rule) or happened to late (under the theoretical 50% rule).

    As for how this pertains to future B1G conferences (such as Lacrosse), nobody seems to really know, but everyone is under the assumption that the league bylaws require 6 teams. Again though, nobody seems to know what that actual bylaws say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    At least, that is what everyone thinks. Nobody can seem to find what the actual rule is. That being said, even if it were a 50% rule, the BTHC was formed when there was 6 of 12 programs. Not only that, but the conference begins play the year before Maryland and Rutgers come in, so the conference would be grandfathered in.

    To answer TheMightyJobu's question, it either didn't matter (under the theoretical 6 team rule) or happened to late (under the theoretical 50% rule).

    As for how this pertains to future B1G conferences (such as Lacrosse), nobody seems to really know, but everyone is under the assumption that the league bylaws require 6 teams. Again though, nobody seems to know what that actual bylaws say.
    It's been in a ton of articles from reputable sources. Both for hockey in the past and lacrosse now. Meanwhile, I have read the 50% thing in no articles. That is good enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnstate0fhockey View Post
    It's been in a ton of articles from reputable sources. Both for hockey in the past and lacrosse now. Meanwhile, I have read the 50% thing in no articles. That is good enough for me.
    Up until yesterday I didn't think a coach could ensure that a play would be not be reviewable by throwing a challenge flag on a play that is automatically reviewed. Had I read the rulebook, I would have known.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    Up until yesterday I didn't think a coach could ensure that a play would be not be reviewable by throwing a challenge flag on a play that is automatically reviewed. Had I read the rulebook, I would have known.
    Yet, if you'd read about the rule dozens of times in articles by reputable sources, you'd have known it too. When they discussed that rule during the broadcast yesterday, I didn't need to look up the rule in the actual rule book to believe it
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    Quote Originally Posted by mnstate0fhockey View Post
    Yet, if you'd read about the rule dozens of times in articles by reputable sources, you'd have known it too
    Can you please provide one source that includes where the rule is in the handbook?

    Because the thing is, if I were to have asked 100 reputable football sources based on their perception, my guess is they would have all told me that the play would have been reviewed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    Can you please provide one source that includes where the rule is in the handbook?

    Because the thing is, if I were to have asked 100 reputable football sources based on their perception, my guess is they would have all told me that the play would have been reviewed.
    I provided 2-3 in the other thread. There are plenty more out there. I suggest Google

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnstate0fhockey View Post
    I provided 2-3 in the other thread. There are plenty more out there. I suggest Google
    None of the sources you provided stated where the rule was in the handbook.
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    Here is an article from the Chicago Tribune:

    Big Ten could soon include women's lacrosse

    Although Big Ten communications director Scott Chipman said in an email that any new conference sports based on Monday's announcement of Maryland joining the conference are "still TBD," the addition of Maryland and likely new member Rutgers would provide the six teams the Big Ten requires to have a conference championship in a sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnstate0fhockey View Post
    Here is an article from the Chicago Tribune:

    Big Ten could soon include women's lacrosse
    And where in the handbook is the rule? I understand that everyone is assuming that 6 teams is the rule. I want to know where in the handbook does it say that. Considering that you refuse to post a source that includes such information, I'm going to guess that you don't have one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    None of the sources you provided stated where the rule was in the handbook.
    My point is, I don't care where in the rule book it is. And using your example, I don't are where in the NFL broadcast the rule you referred to is either. If a reputable source (let alone dozens of them) tell me it's a rule, I take their word for it.

    Especially considering I haven't found a single article that mentions the 50% thing. Not one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnstate0fhockey View Post
    My point is, I don't care where in the rule book it is. And using your example, I don't are where in the NFL broadcast the rule you referred to is either. If a reputable source (let alone dozens of them) tell me it's a rule, I take their word for it.

    Especially considering I haven't found a single article that mentions the 50% thing. Not one.
    Have you looked for one?
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    Find me anything that says the rule is 50% of the conference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    Have you looked for one?
    For what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnstate0fhockey View Post
    For what?
    Good lord...I'm done with this.

    I'll just have to splurge and buy a B1G Handbook.
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    Re: Big Ten League?

    So let me see, this is a circle jerk argument over nothing. The BTHC will play on no matter how much opposing fan bases want it to fail, too funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SanTropez View Post
    So let me see, this is a circle jerk argument over nothing. The BTHC will play on no matter how much opposing fan bases want it to fail, too funny.
    Yeah, I'm thinking that people aren't just gonna say "never mind."

    Multiple ships have sailed. The whole fleet, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SanTropez View Post
    So let me see, this is a circle jerk argument over nothing. The BTHC will play on no matter how much opposing fan bases want it to fail, too funny.
    I'm not sure who you are referring to, but I was/am curious for lacrosse purposes.
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