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Pro to NCAA hockey recruiting?

I don't mind this for a lot of the reasons in that article and stated in the latest episode of Called Up. Timestamp is 58:51 if the link doesn't take you there

Reality is, the 21 year old age thing is going to prevent a lot of the fear mongering, and the ECHL salary is essentially only living expenses. If they had a whole year in the AHL I doubt it'll pass the test, but playing under 10 games is whatever. The more pressing reality for the NCAA is if they try to backpedal this, they will get sued (again) and lose (again).

A lot of these guys find themselves barely afloat in the ECHL and ultimately end up stranded after their playing career. If they can boost their career longevity and/or get a substantial education, it improves their life prospects so much.
 
I am 100% opposed to a player coming into college from playing in the ALH or ECHL. Anyone who thinks they will make it financially in the ECHL in the first place is delusional. If they make a dumb decision, that's on them. Let's not spoil it for the guys who make good decisions.
 
I am in 100% agreement with TimothyA for the reasons stated. I have had the opportunity (misfortune?) to have lived in several ECHL cities where the players were essentially one step removed from the welfare rolls (except for the NHL draft mistakes who were spending their big signing bonuses).

OTOH, also agree with the reality that Cinnamoroll presents. Shakespeare was 100% right about lawyers. Respectfully disagree about "improving the life prospects" of those who made bad decisions at the expense of taking scholarship and/or NIL money and roster spots away from still up-and-coming <21 young kids.

Let the OK Boomer insults begin!
 
This isn't about punishing decisions made at 21, it's about how NCAA punished players for decisions made at 15 or 16 for years. These kids are all former CHLers. They didn't have the choice to go to NCAA until this season. I won't blame them for taking an opportunity they always should have had in the first place. Beyond amateurism rules being bullshit, the CHL kids never got paid enough for considering them professionals to make any actual sense.
 
cinnamoroll said:
This isn't about punishing decisions made at 21, it's about how NCAA punished players for decisions made at 15 or 16 for years. These kids are all former CHLers. They didn't have the choice to go to NCAA until this season. I won't blame them for taking an opportunity they always should have had in the first place. Beyond amateurism rules being bullshit, the CHL kids never got paid enough for considering them professionals to make any actual sense.
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Not to mention the NIL money is essentially pay for play anyway. To say that it's OK to be paid for NIL and exclude an ECHL contract is a little contradictory. I think people just need to realize the that landscape of sports has migrated to be more fair to NCAA athletes.
 
Julius said:
Not to mention the NIL money is essentially pay for play anyway. To say that it's OK to be paid for NIL and exclude an ECHL contract is a little contradictory. I think people just need to realize the that landscape of sports has migrated to be more fair to NCAA athletes.
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"Fair"? Fair has nothing to do with this
 
I suppose we can interpret this from several different angles:

The NCAA v. Alston Decision (2021)
The ruling:
The Supreme Court unanimously upheld a lower court's decision, agreeing that the NCAA's restrictions on athlete compensation violated antitrust law.
What it did:
The decision allowed for enhanced education benefits for athletes, such as cash bonuses for academic achievement.
What it didn't do:
It did not directly allow for NIL (Name, Image, and Likeness) deals or direct salaries, which the NCAA initially opposed.

The House v. NCAA Settlement (Approved June 2025)
The settlement:
A landmark legal agreement that allows for direct payments to athletes from their universities.
Direct payments:
Starting in the 2025-26 school year, schools can pay athletes directly, a significant departure from the past.
Compensation cap:
Each school has an annual cap on player compensation, initially set at approximately $20.5 million and rising in the future.
Revenue sharing:
The settlement allocates $2.7 billion to former and current players over the next decade.
Shift in landscape:
The agreement marks a major step towards the professionalization of college sports, with compensation likely focusing on high-revenue sports like football and basketball.

In the end I think its a "follow the money" issue. Lots of parties are going to make money from this......




Julius said:
👌 All these lawsuits and rules changes have nothing to do with making it more fair for the athletes...
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I have not read the NCAA ruling, or done any research for that matter, but after thinking about this a little more, I wonder if this would that mean that a NCAA player could now attend NHL training camp in an attempt to make the team or to just get experience on an ATO that only provides room and board and then come back to the team if they don't make the roster? Or even play in the ECHL or AHL after the NCAA season is done for a playoff run? I mean, what's the difference of playing in the ECHL or AHL as compared to playing in the World Championships against Pros now?
 
Julius said:
I have not read the NCAA ruling, or done any research for that matter, but after thinking about this a little more, I wonder if this would that mean that a NCAA player could now attend NHL training camp in an attempt to make the team or to just get experience on an ATO that only provides room and board and then come back to the team if they don't make the roster? Or even play in the ECHL or AHL after the NCAA season is done for a playoff run? I mean, what's the difference of playing in the ECHL or AHL as compared to playing in the World Championships against Pros now?
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they probably could, except you do actually have to go to classes and most schools have begun by the time training camps started. i don’t think it’s possible without a ton of maneuvering and the eligibility center will need to review everything. there was some talk of this situation for Michael Misa before he signed his ELC, now it sounds like he was never considering the college route seriously anyways.
 
Julius said:
I have not read the NCAA ruling, or done any research for that matter, but after thinking about this a little more, I wonder if this would that mean that a NCAA player could now attend NHL training camp in an attempt to make the team or to just get experience on an ATO that only provides room and board and then come back to the team if they don't make the roster? Or even play in the ECHL or AHL after the NCAA season is done for a playoff run? I mean, what's the difference of playing in the ECHL or AHL as compared to playing in the World Championships against Pros now?
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UND commit Caleb Heil played in a NHL preseason game with Tampa Bay, and he hasn't even stepped on the UND campus yet. He will be playing the 25-26 season with the Madison Capitols in the USHL.
 
beaverhockeyfan said:
UND commit Caleb Heil played in a NHL preseason game with Tampa Bay, and he hasn't even stepped on the UND campus yet. He will be playing the 25-26 season with the Madison Capitols in the USHL.
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I guess that answers the question then, ha. So I guess I'd be interested to see if players will migrate to the ECHL and AHL after the NCAA season is done, with no real intention of leaving their NCAA team.
 
Julius said:
I guess that answers the question then, ha. So I guess I'd be interested to see if players will migrate to the ECHL and AHL after the NCAA season is done, with no real intention of leaving their NCAA team.
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Currently, players become ineligible to return to the NCAA if they leave and go back to the CHL. I wouldn't be surprised if that's expanded to the ECHL and AHL.
 
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