2025 SUNYAC...addition and subtractions and of course Tomfoolery..

Scott_TG said:

Yeah why not? Doubt the team will be too disappointed if two important players turn out not to be leaving

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Russell Jaslow said:

There are many coaches who tell players once they enter the portal, they are done with the team. And will never take them back no matter what.

Having said that, I have no idea which side of the fence Mark Taylor is on that philosophy.

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yes its like the stock market, it does not like uncertainty, again would imagine what the coaches policy is will dictate what happens....either way looks like they will be ok as far as bart is concerned

Why are you posting Hobart stuff in a SUNYAC thread??....... oh, wait.....

As far as the two Hobart portal entries, it will likely have an impact on the remaining team members as far as their relationship with these guys. Mark Taylor has to do what's best for the team and that means he is already recruiting the best players possible, and not necessarily "replacements". Duclair is unique as an incredibly talented, but undersized , brother of a top NFL professional(Anthony Duclair). He certainly wants to see what his ceiling is, but his size and shot selection/accuracy might be an issue. His speed and endurance are D1. Bauer Morrissey is capable of playing D1 on defense and would be missed, but Taylor has a great system to integrate additions. Last year ,Hobart lost two players to D1 , one was the team Captain who graduated from Hobart and played successfully for Bentley. Although he had a year of eligibility left, no one blamed him for seeking an MBA at Bentley. He came back for the Championship at Utica. We also lost our leading scorer to Brown, but he had a hard time getting significant ice time, we'll see how he does next year. I think Taylor has wished them luck but wouldn't close the door on them coming back but that depends on their stature/chemistry with teammates , not just Taylor.

Incoming freshmen Tommy McDonough D/NH Mountain Kings (NAHL) and Laurent Trepanier F/Maine Nordiques (NAHL) will more than make up for the two portal departures. Both are impact players and will fit in right away.

SUNYAC announced 3 new full members alfred state cobleskill and Delhi. While they dont have hockey teams or any plans for them in the near future they made this move for a reason. Maybe some more schools (including hockey schools) are leaving? Maybe a new emphasis on sports with the smaller schools to keep enrollment stable that would include adding hockey?

Lord_Zubin said:

SUNYAC announced 3 new full members alfred state cobleskill and Delhi. While they dont have hockey teams or any plans for them in the near future they made this move for a reason. Maybe some more schools (including hockey schools) are leaving? Maybe a new emphasis on sports with the smaller schools to keep enrollment stable that would include adding hockey?

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After Brockport and Geneseo left, New Paltz left (effective next school year). So, they lost three and then gained five (Morrisville and Canton this past year) full time members.

Quite frankly, those five schools are going to get crushed in most sports. As we saw with Canton and especially Morrisville. They are small schools which still focus heavily on two-year degree programs rather than four-year degrees.

Very true it would take a long term investment to get those schools up to snuff compared to the 4 year schools. Probably at least a decade. With the enrollment crisis impeding for next year, it'll be interesting to see what schools survive and which don't and how all the students shift. Small northeast liberal arts schools are the most likely to get the hardest whereas state schools are probably the safest (I know Penn State had to close like 8 of their satellite campuses but 13/18 satellites have like 500 kids most suny schools I'm fairly certain are double to triple that at the minium even for the jucos

Didnt the SUNYAC also gain Hobart William Smith and Skidmore...??? or is that just for hockey??? First I heard about NP,that is for next yr?? damn it was the nearest YAC volleyball school to me that Cortland will play

bakdraft21 said:

Didnt the SUNYAC also gain Hobart William Smith and Skidmore...??? or is that just for hockey??? First I heard about NP,that is for next yr?? damn it was the nearest YAC volleyball school to me that Cortland will play

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Just for hockey.

We're talking full time members in this current conversation.

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Very true it would take a long term investment to get those schools up to snuff compared to the 4 year schools. Probably at least a decade. With the enrollment crisis impeding for next year, it'll be interesting to see what schools survive and which don't and how all the students shift. Small northeast liberal arts schools are the most likely to get the hardest whereas state schools are probably the safest (I know Penn State had to close like 8 of their satellite campuses but 13/18 satellites have like 500 kids most suny schools I'm fairly certain are double to triple that at the minium even for the jucos

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There are some SUNY schools which are in economic trouble. From what I hear, Albany is putting most of their money lately into the Universities, much to the chagrin of the colleges. And some are being told to get out of the red or else.

There have been rumors for a long time that Potsdam and Canton will merge. And it's no secret that University of Buffalo has made offers to buy Fredonia and turn it into a UB satellite campus.

bakdraft21 said:

Didnt the SUNYAC also gain Hobart William Smith and Skidmore...??? or is that just for hockey??? First I heard about NP,that is for next yr?? damn it was the nearest YAC volleyball school to me that Cortland will play

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Just Hockey. They are both in the D3 Liberty League and the league doesn't have enough D3 hockey members since Union, RIT, RPI and Clarkson are all D1 hockey programs. Hobart has no interest in moving up to D1 given the cost of building their own rink and the success they've enjoyed in D3 is cool since we are lucky enough to have Coach Taylor who recruits great young men. BTW, Hobart did make a pitch to host the 2025 Championship that included a couple of mobile locker rooms, mobile toilets and many food trucks that could be fit directly outside The Cooler and rent the nearby parking lot from Geneva....but it didn't get approved.

UB could "buy" Fredonia???

ColdInRomney said:

UB could "buy" Fredonia???

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It is a funny choice of words. I suspect it would be more like take over the debt. In some ways, the way I understand it, each school is it's own business entity. The State provides money to each school, but the school still has to make a proft, especially in the areas of dorms and food services. The State isn't going to bail a school out if they run into severe financial troubles. But another school can.

Fredonia has a $16.8 million budget deficit. Buffalo State is similar. https://www.wkbw.com/news/eye-on-education/two-suny-campuses-in-wny-facing-looming-deficits

That article is also 3 years old. SUNY has added hundreds of millions of dollars since then and oz has reported their deficit is down to 1.9M as of last October from whatever the original number was. While IDK how fredonias/Potsdam situations are but the state has clearly put a lot of money into this and are seemingly to do everything they possibly can B4 schools get merged/bought out

Here are the 2025-26 SUNYAC team recruits that I have found so far there maybe more I only did a quick search and may have missed some.
Buffalo State-

Gleb Ushakov F 5-11 175 lbs 56 GP 2G 6A 8PTS Oklahoma Warriors NAHL

Foster Nichol D 6-1 172 lbs 56 GP 2G 13A 15PTS Shreveport Mudbugs NAHL

Zach Peller D 6-0 185 LBS 54 GP 2G 7A 9PTS Springfield JR Blues NAHL

Skidmore-

Ryan Stratton F 5-8 150 lbs 30 GP 13G 14A 27PTS Mercer Chiefs NCDC

Ashton Breyer D 6-4 195 lbs 58 GP 3G 6A 9PTS Anchorage Wolverines NAHL

Jack Bartfield F 5-9 170 lbs 53 GP 13G 25A 38PTS Ogden Mustangs NCDC

Bryan Tang F 5-10 174 lbs 37 GP 10G 17A 27PTS Boston Jr Rangers NCDC

Christian Day F 5-8 159 lbs 56 GP 15G 28A 43PTS Islanders Hockey Club NCDC

Tyler Fogu F 6-3 196 lbs 54 GP 10G 16A 26PTS Jersey Hitman NCDC

Alex LoGuercio F 6-0 200 lbs 27 GP 19G 10A 29PTS Northern Cyclones NCDC

Daniel Urban F 5-8 174 lbs 53 GP 19G 41A 60PTS Utica Jr. Comets NCDC

Canton-

Dylan Pollock F 6-0 180 lbs 50 GP 12G 16A 28PTS Nepean Raiders CCHL

Spencer Sasenbury F 6-3 170 LBS 45 GP 8G 5A 13PTS Watertown Shamrocks NAHL

Raine Hodge F 5-11 180 LBS 38 GP 7G 15A 22PTS Melville Millionaires SJHL

Cortland-

Brody Seitz F 6-0 170 lbs 49 GP 15G 22A 37PTS Buffalo JR Sabres OJHL

Morley Phillips F 6-4 210 lbs 57 GP 13G 22A 35PTS Amarillo Wranglers NAHL

JC Humphreys F 5-9 170 lbs 45 GP 6G 14A 20PTS Rochester JR Americans NAHL

Alex Zakrzewski D 5-8 157 lbs 53 GP 3G 19A 22PTS Rochester JR Americans NAHL

Aiden Ryan F 6-3 192 lbs 46 GP 25G 31A 56PTS Jersey Hitmen NCDC

Fredonia-

Brett Ward D 6-4 200 lbs 56 GP 10G 23A 33PTS Northern Manitoba Blizzard MJHL

Keenan McNeill F 6-1 180 lbs 50 GP 12G 26A 38PTS Northern Manitoba Blizzard MJHL

Mathieu Fournier F 6-1 175 lbs 47 GP 21G 22A 43PTS Boston JR Rangers NCDC

Owen Cross F 6-2 195 lbs 45 GP 8G 16A 24PTS West Chester Wolves NCDC

Hudson Cameron F 5-10 173 lbs 53 GP 19G 34A 53PTS La Ronge Ice Wolves SJHL

Josh Serino F 5-10 175 lbs 47 GP 39G 43A 82PTS Sheridan Hawks NA3HL

Oswego-

Michael Manzi G 6-1 192 lbs 44 GP 27W 11L 2.29 GAA .925 SV% Anchorage Wolverines NAHL

Raymond Perrault D 6-3 195 lbs 61 GP 6G 11A 17PTS Corpus Christi Icerays (NAHL)

Plattsburgh-

Zander Latreille F 5-10 168 lbs 54 GP 12G 43A 55PTS Wellington Dukes OJHL

Jaden Ward D 5-11 170 lbs 55 GP 7G 29A 36PTS Buffalo JR Sabres OJHL

Beau Lane G 6-4 170 lbs 25 GP 16W 5L 2OTL 2.46 GAA .913 SV% 2 SO South Shore Kings NCDC

Thierry Lizotte D 6-0 190 lbs 53 GP 6G 20A 26PTS Northern Cyclones NCDC

Michael English D 6-0 199 lbs 52 GP 2G 23A 25PTS P.A.L JR Islanders NCDC

Gabriel Filion F 5-11 185 lbs 27 GP 9G 10A 19PTS Drayton Valley Thunder AJHL

Kyle James D 6-0 170 lbs 49 GP 12G 24A 36PTS Smiths Falls Bears CCHL

Alex Moliner F 5-10 166 lbs 47 GP 33G 40A 73PTS Longueuil Collège-Français QJHL

Brady Spry G 6-1 180 lbs 28 GP 21W 5L 2.60 GAA .914 SV% Trenton Golden Hawks OJHL

Potsdam-

Landon Cole F 6-1 181 lbs 39 GP 6G 12A 18PTS Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Knights NCDC*

Savva Serdiuk G 6-4 168 lbs 20 GP 16W 3L 2.47 GAA .918 SV% Tampa Bay Juniors Premier

Morrisville-

Connor Santay D 6-2 185 lbs 25 GP 5G 8A 13PTS New Jersey 87’s EHL

Carson Walters F 5-10 175 lbs 8 GP 2G 4A 6PTS New Jersey 87’s EHL

Billy Loughnane F 6-1 181 lbs 43 GP 19G 28A 47PTS Carolina Jr. Hurricanes Premier

Hobart-

Tommy McDonough D 5-9 165 lbs 59 GP 7G 46A 53PTS New Hampshire Mountain Kings NAHL

looks like Oswego has their third net minder,thought they would bring in a D1 transfer to compete for the #1 job,I guess not.Bringing in a big man who takes a whole bunch of penalties,hope he can skate????...

I did find 2 more for Canton
Canton-
William Forsberg F 6-1 180 lbs 37 GP 7G 6A 13PTS Melville Millionaires SJHL

Colton Alexander F 6-1 175 lbs 32 GP 11G 20A 31PTS Neepawa Titans MJHL

bakdraft21 said:

looks like Oswego has their third net minder,thought they would bring in a D1 transfer to compete for the #1 job,I guess not.Bringing in a big man who takes a whole bunch of penalties,hope he can skate????...

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My Guess is that they are going to see how the 2 underclassmen play and possibly bring in a D1 transfer next year since this is Milberg's last year. As for Raymond Perrault I don't have an account with Neutral Zone anymore but I can see if they think a player has a little extra and they show him as speed, Hockey IQ and Toughness so my guess is he can skate and hit.

dmac1103 said:

My Guess is that they are going to see how the 2 underclassmen play and possibly bring in a D1 transfer next year since this is Milberg's last year. As for Raymond Perrault I don't have an account with Neutral Zone anymore but I can see if they think a player has a little extra and they show him as speed, Hockey IQ and Toughness so my guess is he can skate and hit.

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That makes sense, coach is pretty damn good at this so gotta go with his picks for sure....Thanks for the legwork dmac...

glad to see most of the conference pivoting to the NAHL and NCDC for their recruits cause it really seems the best talent nowadays is going to those leagues. Hopefully the yac can get back to being a multi bid league (thank god we only have to deal with beaver and his 0.956 career save % for one year)