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Harvard 2021-22: Back to Work

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thirdtime's . . .

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Katey Stone said that the upcoming bench was going to be a “monster,” and while I think she was referring to its size, let’s hope there’s more to it than that. We’re due. In any case ten members of the class of 2025 will join the four members of this past year’s recruits for a grand total of fourteen newcomers. (Why does a man my age have to navigate Twitter to find out about this stuff?) So Harvard is ready to move beyond this year’s “roster” of three.

Class of 2024:
Paige Lester (F, Aeros), Eva Dorr (F, Mt. Lebanon), Rose O’Connor (D, Nobles), Taze Thompson (F, New Hampton).
Intel?

Class of 2025:
Emily Davidson (G, Lawrence Park), Kayley Crawford (F, Minnetonka), Hannah Chorske (F, Edina), Daisy Boynton (G, Middlesex), Mia Biotti (D, BB&N), Ellie Bayard (F, Nobles), Gabi Adams (F, Ontario), Jenna MacDonald (D, Rivers), Alex Pellicci (G, Prior Lake), Eleanor Winges (D, Episcopal / Dallas).

Sixteen months ago someone came through the glass doors separating a 70-degree indoor track meet from a 40-degree hockey game, watched the action on the ice for a few minutes, then came up to me and announced that Harvard was getting somebody special in 2021 . . . “special” as in the real deal. And then, as quickly as he had come, he was gone, disappeared back into the world of pole vaulters and hurdlers. It was as if he was an intelligence mole and I his unwitting contact, now entrusted with crucial, though partial, information. Who is she? Does she really exist? I have the thinnest of clues, but I need verification. Trust but verify. Does anyone out there know of a really real deal in this gang of ten, or even a big deal. I’ll settle for a big deal.

For more details:

https://gocrimson.com/news/2021/5/2...ey-previews-roster-additions-for-2021-22.aspx
 
Again, not saying it is the gold standard, but Neutral Zone has this class as the 2nd rated class in 2021 (only behind Minnesota), with stars of 1x4.5, 2x4.25, 1x4.0, 2x3.5, 1x3.25, 1x3.0 with 2 unranked. It looks like a pretty good class. Having multiple 4.0+ star recruits is pretty dang good.
 
thirdtime's . . . said:
If you, of all people, can't see something good here, we're sunk.
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Oh, oh. That could be taken a number of ways, and I'm not sure that any of them are good. I'm just ignorant about your recruits for the most part. Because the U-18 Worlds were wiped out, I'm guessing a Harvard class of 14 lost some credits to the resumes that it could have otherwise boasted. Hannah Chorske is a nice player, but I don't know that she's the kind of franchise talent that would pull someone away from a track meet. IMO, Harvard is a lot like BC, in that even if the team is down, there will always be some blue-chip talent on the roster.
 
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Oh, oh. That could be taken a number of ways, and I'm not sure that any of them are good. I'm just ignorant about your recruits for the most part. Because the U-18 Worlds were wiped out, I'm guessing a Harvard class of 14 lost some credits to the resumes that it could have otherwise boasted. Hannah Chorske is a nice player, but I don't know that she's the kind of franchise talent that would pull someone away from a track meet. IMO, Harvard is a lot like BC, in that even if the team is down, there will always be some blue-chip talent on the roster.
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I suspect that our presumed standout is a local kid, so her being off your radar is OK, I guess. If Cornholio and Neutral Zone have it right, you and the Gophers will be seeing her in Durham in 2024, when the class of '25 will peak.
 
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Lindsay said:
https://gocrimson.com/news/2021/6/1...-hockeys-distinguished-achievement-award.aspx

Katey Stone wins USA Hockey Distinguished Achievement Award. First woman to have ever won the award. Award has been around since 1991 and has an impressive list of winners. Congrats to Coach Stone.
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Congratulations to her. It looks like the two people recognized for their work involving women's hockey have been Ben Smith and now Katey Stone, 23 years apart. Does Mark Johnson have to wait another 23 years to join the list, or did he accomplish enough on the men's side so that he can cut into the line?
 
ARM said:
Does Mark Johnson have to wait another 23 years to join the list, or did he accomplish enough on the men's side so that he can cut into the line?
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Mark Johnson is there, but you have to look close (2005).

(Happy to see other Wisconsin representation there, particularly Jeff Sauer.)
 
robertearle said:
Mark Johnson is there, but you have to look close (2005).
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Good point. Given Neal Broten is on the list as a solo artist, (not sure if '80 Olympic Team includes Herb Brooks or not), I think that the MJ question remains.
 
Here’s some truly inventive Ivy spinning:

https://ivyleague.com/news/2021/7/1...mits-student-athlete-name-image-and-likeness-

"One of the fundamental philosophies of the Ivy League is that student-athletes should have the same opportunities as all students, including the option to engage in projects that use their name, image and likeness," Ivy League Executive Director Robin Harris said.


Does this mean that athletes can finally get on board the same gravy train long enjoyed by students of celestial mechanics and medieval history? Wow.
 
Harvard has posted its 2021-22 roster and it lists thirty-four skaters ("thirty-four" as in the numeral 34). They ran out of numbered jerseys after twenty, so the fourteen
(“fourteen" as in the numeral 14) freshmen will have to bide their time.

It looks like the next few years are going to be really interesting ones for Ivy players and coaches alike.
 
thirdtime's . . . said:
Harvard has posted its 2021-22 roster and it lists thirty-four skaters ("thirty-four" as in the numeral 34). They ran out of numbered jerseys after twenty, so the fourteen
(“fourteen" as in the numeral 14) freshmen will have to bide their time.
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5 goalies...10 defensemen,...and 19 forwards. Wow.

They could split into two squads with 17 skaters each...Something like Harvard East and Harvard West.
 
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The full schedule is now out and the Crimson seem to be starting the season in late October with what can only be described as a scrimmage weekend: at Dartmouth Friday night, then home to Saint Anselm (!) Sat afternoon. With thirty-four pairs of legs to choose from they should be able to manage this. But seeing the Hawks on the schedule is a good reminder that with all the drama around establishing a truly professional women’s league, it’s nice to see demonstrable, continued growth/support at the collegiate level, where it counts: NEWHA, for example, and the push-back at RMU. Of course the big news on the calendar is Crowell’s return to Bright, accompanied by the Bulldogs, for New Year’s weekend. This ring-out-the-old/ring-in-the-new with the WCHA in town is BIG, really BIG, right up there with the Beanpot final against BC, come Feb 8th.

This fall’s big question for me is how well Zambonis can deal with rust. The early going could be pretty harrowing, especially for the Ivy goalies who haven’t seen serious SOGs for 18+ months. Are early league box scores going to show results like 15-8, 17-12, 23-22, resembling such ultra-finesse sports as lacrosse and water polo? We’ll just have to wait and see.
 
thirdtime's . . . said:
The full schedule is now out and the Crimson seem to be starting the season in late October with what can only be described as a scrimmage weekend: at Dartmouth Friday night, then home to Saint Anselm (!) Sat afternoon. With thirty-four pairs of legs to choose from they should be able to manage this. But seeing the Hawks on the schedule is a good reminder that with all the drama around establishing a truly professional women’s league, it’s nice to see demonstrable, continued growth/support at the collegiate level, where it counts: NEWHA, for example, and the push-back at RMU. Of course the big news on the calendar is Crowell’s return to Bright, accompanied by the Bulldogs, for New Year’s weekend. This ring-out-the-old/ring-in-the-new with the WCHA in town is BIG, really BIG, right up there with the Beanpot final against BC, come Feb 8th.

This fall’s big question for me is how well Zambonis can deal with rust. The early going could be pretty harrowing, especially for the Ivy goalies who haven’t seen serious SOGs for 18+ months. Are early league box scores going to show results like 15-8, 17-12, 23-22, resembling such ultra-finesse sports as lacrosse and water polo? We’ll just have to wait and see.
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I just looked at the roster and could not believe the number of players. Has to be the largest roster in Harvard women's hockey history. Not sure how many will see the ice on a regular basis. Hoping that Katey will spread the ice time although how does one choose? As thirdtime pointed out, you could have split squad scrimmages leading up to the start of the regular season. Maybe that will resolve some of the playing time.
 
Skate79 wrote: "Hoping that Katey will spread the ice time although how does one choose?"

Answer: She doesn't choose! She plays all 34 players at once!
Well, at least that's what the box scores and the individual stats table on the H website currently seem to say.....I sure couldn't count more than 18 skaters and three goalies at each game, but the box scores currently say that all 34 played each game but...wait a minute...the stats table says that each of the 34 played only one game (in which they scored a total of ten goals). Maybe we need to wait for a bit of clarification.

Actually, here's what my unofficial tally -- certainly subject to correction -- looks like:

Goal: Dutton and Reid 1 apiece

Defense: Willoughby, Biotti, both Macdonalds, and Buckles 2 apiece, Sorkin and Glover 1 apiece

Forwards: Top six forwards Della Rovere, Gilmore, Bloomer, Petrie, Moy and Jovanovich definitely 2 apiece, also I think a third line of Bayard, Thompson and Hollands 2 apiece, and Hyland, Dorr, Erhard, Chorske, Davidson-Adams and Lester 1 apiece
 
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