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  • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

    Alright, I'll buy the "He should be aware of the stanchion" argument. The five and a game is warranted then. I still don't think there should be a suspension in this case, but it is dangerous and one game isn't out of the question to me.
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      1st. What the hell, Chara?

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      • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

        Yes, he knows there is a stanchion there, but it looked like he just lost track of where he was. He rubbed Pacioretty along the bench, looked like he was trying to dump him into the bench, finished his check (when the arm came up)... all while looking up ice to see where play was going. I didn't recall him turning to look to see where he and Pacioretty were along the boards.

        An unfortunate play that if it happened 10' further back, ESPN would have included the dump of Pacioretty into the bench in their top 10.
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          If you go back and watch again, the refs didn't even call a penalty until they saw Pacioretty was hurt.

          Is it the right call? Absolutely. Interference was the correct call and it was a dangerous play.

          Should he be suspended? I don't know. You can't ignore the history between these two. You also can't ignore the positioning on the ice. But Chara doesn't have a record of dirty play. I could see a 1-3 game suspension.


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          • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

            Originally posted by UNH GH View Post

            Should he be suspended? I don't know. You can't ignore the history between these two. You also can't ignore the positioning on the ice. But Chara doesn't have a record of dirty play. I could see a 1-3 game suspension.
            This is my rough estimate as well. I think he will get (something) if only to serve as a notice that this type of play won't go without punishment, but I think it will only be 1-2, MAYBE 3. We'll see, certainly an interesting case.
            Last edited by hockeyplayer1015; 03-09-2011, 11:14 AM.

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              Don't really care whether Chara gets 0 games or 20. There's a promising young kid laying in a hospital bed.

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              • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

                Originally posted by aparch View Post
                An unfortunate play that if it happened 10' further back, ESPN would have included the dump of Pacioretty into the bench in their top 10.
                ESPN knows what hockey is?

                For what it's worth, I agree with Brent in that I don't think Chara was trying to cause serious injury to Pacioretty. But, by the same token, I don't think Donald Brashear was trying to break bones in Blair Betts's face, nor do I think Todd Bertuzzi was trying to cripple Steve Moore, he was just trying to get the Harvard pansy to turn and fight. But when a guy does something illegal and the outcome is worse than he anticipated... well, honestly I'm not sure how I feel about the extent to which the consequence should be based on the outcome (especially where the outcome is markedly worse than the transgressor should necessarily have been able to predict), or whether it should just be based on the action itself. But I think the NHL has shown in the past, such as with the above instances, that they think the punishment should in some way reflect the outcome of an incident.
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                • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

                  Originally posted by aparch View Post
                  Yes, he knows there is a stanchion there, but it looked like he just lost track of where he was. He rubbed Pacioretty along the bench, looked like he was trying to dump him into the bench, finished his check (when the arm came up)... all while looking up ice to see where play was going. I didn't recall him turning to look to see where he and Pacioretty were along the boards.

                  An unfortunate play that if it happened 10' further back, ESPN would have included the dump of Pacioretty into the bench in their top 10.
                  Every NHL team has a different set up for that middle section between benches where the impact took place. A lot of Montreal players are speaking up saying that Chara should know his surroundings. Keep in mind this was a road game for Boston, and not their familiar surroundings of the Garden.
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                    How did jack Edwards broadcast this?? (didn't watch, only caught a quick highlight on YouTube with no sound)
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                    • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

                      Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                      How did jack Edwards broadcast this?? (didn't watch, only caught a quick highlight on YouTube with no sound)
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                      • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

                        No suspension for Chara, according to tweet by Renaud Lavoie.

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                          Max Pacioretty suffered a severe concussion and a fracture of the fourth cervical vertebrae when he was hit into the stanchion by Boston defenseman Zdeno Chara on Tuesday night.

                          His vertebrae is not displaced, according to coach Jacques Martin, but Pacioretty will remain under observation at the hospital. It is almost certain that he won't play again this season, but his career could be in jeopardy as well.

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                          • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

                            Originally posted by OvahInDovah View Post
                            No suspension for Chara, according to tweet by Renaud Lavoie.
                            From Bob McKenzie:

                            NHL opts to NOT provide any supplemental discipline -- no fine, no suspension -- for Chara's hit on Pacioretty.
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                            • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

                              Originally posted by NMU8405
                              but his career could be in jeopardy as well.
                              That's unfortunate.

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                                We're going to end up with a dead body on the ice at some point real soon. Then all these decisions by the NHL to by and large slap wrists as long as you're not Trevor Gilles is going to come back and bite the league in the ***. They were lucky on that front last night. They were lucky with Steve Moore, though Bertuzzi and the Canucks' wallets might still not think so when that finally finishes up.
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