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  • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

    The Ottawa fire sale continues and the Bruins add some grit

    The rebuild in Ottawa continues.

    The Senators dealt centre Chris Kelly to the Boston Bruins on Tuesday in exchange for a second-round pick in this year's draft.

    The Bruins get a two-way forward who can kill penalties and contribute offensively, while Ottawa continues to look to the future.

    "I just traded one of the good guys and most-respected players on this hockey team," Senators general manager Bryan Murray said in announcing the deal after Ottawa's 4-3 shootout loss to the New York Islanders. "To have to make the moves we're making are difficult, but that's the way we have to go at this point in time."
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      Cleveland's failed twice at minor league hockey. First the former Muskegon Lumberjacks, (Good move there, Pittsburgh. You still suck.) then the Cleveland Barons, (now the Woostah Sharks).
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      • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

        Originally posted by bronconick View Post
        Cleveland's failed twice at minor league hockey. First the former Muskegon Lumberjacks, (Good move there, Pittsburgh. You still suck.) then the Cleveland Barons, (now the Woostah Sharks).
        Not to mention the NHL's California Golden Seals Cleveland Barons Minnesota North Stars Dallas Stars.
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        • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

          Originally posted by stevep View Post
          Not to mention the NHL's California Golden Seals Cleveland Barons Minnesota North Stars Dallas Stars/San Jose Sharks.
          fyp.

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          • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

            Originally posted by bronconick View Post
            Cleveland's failed twice at minor league hockey. First the former Muskegon Lumberjacks, (Good move there, Pittsburgh. You still suck.) then the Cleveland Barons, (now the Woostah Sharks).
            In the AHL alone:
            Baltimore failed three times (Clippers, Skipjacks, Bandits).
            Buffalo Bisons failed twice.
            Cincinnatti failed three times.
            Fredericton, New Brunswick failed twice.
            Moncton, New Brunswick failed twice.
            New Haven, Connecticut failed three times.
            Halifax, Nova Scotia failed three times.
            Philadelphia failed four times.
            Quebec City, Quebec failed twice.
            Springfield, Massachusetts failed twice.
            Syracuse failed four times.
            Washington, D.C. failed twice.

            The IHL, ECHL, WCHL, and other minor pro leagues below would contribute to a much bigger list.

            *edit* Cleveland may have failed more than twice. They had the Falcons from 36-37, which changed name to Barons from 37-73. Then came back to the AHL in 2001-06. The IHL Lumberjacks would make it their third failed team. Not much hope for the Lake Erie Monsters to continue.
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            • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

              Originally posted by aparch View Post
              In the AHL alone:
              Baltimore failed three times (Clippers, Skipjacks, Bandits).
              Buffalo Bisons failed twice.
              Cincinnatti failed three times.
              Fredericton, New Brunswick failed twice.
              Moncton, New Brunswick failed twice.
              New Haven, Connecticut failed three times.
              Halifax, Nova Scotia failed three times.
              Philadelphia failed four times.
              Quebec City, Quebec failed twice.
              Springfield, Massachusetts failed twice.
              Syracuse failed four times.
              Washington, D.C. failed twice.

              The IHL, ECHL, WCHL, and other minor pro leagues below would contribute to a much bigger list.
              I remember several of those names/teams from back when I used to go over and catch the Cornwall Aces games (Quebec farm system). The AHL landscape sure has changed a ton since the mid-90's.

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                I'm not sure how significant it is that Philadelphia has lost AHL teams twice in recent years when those are teams that were there *in addition to* the Flyers, who have generally been supported very well. Bear in mind that the Phantoms played in the same building as the Flyers (or, once the Flyers moved to the new building, in the outdated Spectrum), and that the Firebirds were a hugely inferior competitor during the Flyers' late 1970s Broad Street Bullies heyday. The two teams from before 1950, does that really tell us anything about the current character of the city? I don't think it does.
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                • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

                  Whatever happened to the Las Vegas idea? I remember reading about a casino owner who wanted to build an arena for an NHL team. That's a market that would be great to tap into while there is no other professional sports team in town, no?

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                  • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

                    Originally posted by collegehcky2 View Post
                    Whatever happened to the Las Vegas idea? I remember reading about a casino owner who wanted to build an arena for an NHL team. That's a market that would be great to tap into while there is no other professional sports team in town, no?
                    I think the biggest issue going against Las Vegas is the pro sports are hesistant to want to associate themselves with that city by having a permament franchise there.
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                    • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

                      Originally posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View Post
                      I think the biggest issue going against Las Vegas is the pro sports are hesistant to want to associate themselves with that city by having a permament franchise there.
                      Some league is going to break that seal eventually, and they'll be swimming in $$$.

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                      • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

                        Originally posted by state of hockey View Post
                        They also had the other Kostitsyn. You may need to check your sarcasm detector.
                        It's a little depressing that Grabovski, Matt D'Agostini, and little Kostitsyn are outscoring Cammalleri, Gionta, and big Kostitsyn.

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                        • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

                          Originally posted by aparch View Post
                          Fredericton, New Brunswick failed twice.
                          Moncton, New Brunswick failed twice.
                          Halifax, Nova Scotia failed three times.
                          Quebec City, Quebec failed twice.
                          Inconceivable! Canadians will watch any hockey!

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                          • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

                            I'd just like to take this moment to point out the absurdity of the Pacific Division

                            1. Phoenix 30-19-9 69 pts, +3GD
                            2. San Jose 31-21-6 68 pts, +8GD
                            3. Anaheim 32-22-4 68 pts +1GD
                            4. Dallas 31-21-6 68 pts -4GD
                            5. Los Angeles 32-22-3 67 pts +25GD

                            So, 4 teams are in the playoffs, and the one in 9th has the #2 goal differential in the Western Conference.
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                            • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

                              Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                              Inconceivable! Canadians will watch any hockey!
                              And that's bad because?????

                              Old joke --

                              Why do Canadians do it doggy-style?

                              So they can both watch the hockey game!


                              The Laffs are making their annual late-season run. 6-3-1 in the last ten, 4 points back of Atlanta and Buffalo and 6 back of the 8th place Hurricanes.
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                              • Re: 2010-2011 NHL Season Part II - Concussions Are Serious Business, Savvy?

                                Originally posted by bronconick View Post
                                I'd just like to take this moment to point out the absurdity of the Pacific Division

                                1. Phoenix 30-19-9 69 pts, +3GD
                                2. San Jose 31-21-6 68 pts, +8GD
                                3. Anaheim 32-22-4 68 pts +1GD
                                4. Dallas 31-21-6 68 pts -4GD
                                5. Los Angeles 32-22-3 67 pts +25GD

                                So, 4 teams are in the playoffs, and the one in 9th has the #2 goal differential in the Western Conference.
                                I was looking at that last night while watching the Stars/Flames game. Interesting dynamic but I'd bet at least one of my AAA players that all five don't make the playoffs. The goal differential stats are telling. Anyone think that one of these teams is a serious Stanley Cup contender (even factoring in Vancouver's annual choke)?
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