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  • Re: The 2011 Boston Red Sox: This Space for Rent

    Originally posted by Scarlet View Post
    Oh, I think the Yankees epic fail was worse.
    Absolutely. The Yankee collapse is in a league of its own.
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      One factor that impacts our FAIL is that it wasn't just 5-6 days where we got caught up in a little miracle. The Yanks collapsed, don't get me wrong, and they got crushed in game 7, didn't even make a show of it.

      The sox had 30 days to win one more stinkin game and they couldn't...they didn't get stung by the eventual WS champs, they lost to one of the worst teams in baseball multiple times over the last 3 series...they had multiple chances to change the mojo, multiple chances to put it away..they got smoked by the Rays, at home, in a series that could have ended it weeks ago. And they played .800 baseball for 4 months...they were easily the 2nd best team in baseball for the year, they weren't lucky to be at the top and suddenly hit midnight...they were the best and just ****ed it away.

      So, from a 3-0 standpoint, sure the Yankees fell further, but the Sox collapse might have been worse.

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      • Re: The 2011 Boston Red Sox: This Space for Rent

        Adrian Gonzalez lets us know who is really at fault for the epic collapse.

        "It's definitely something that didn't plan for. We were wholly confident that we would make the playoffs but it didn't happen," he said. "We didn't do a better job with the lead. I'm a firm believer that God has a plan and it wasn't in his plan for us to move forward."

        Asked what he saw from the team this month, Gonzalez stayed on his theme.

        "God didn't have it in the cards for us," he said
        Finally! An athlete that isn't afraid to praise God when they win and blame God when they lose!
        Last edited by Priceless; 09-29-2011, 02:22 PM.

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          Don Orsillo is doing the Rays-Texas series on WTBS.

          Which brings me to the sole positive in this mess: This year there will be no more Sox games done by Joe Buck and Tim McCarver.

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          • Re: The 2011 Boston Red Sox: This Space for Rent

            Originally posted by pirate View Post
            One factor that impacts our FAIL is that it wasn't just 5-6 days where we got caught up in a little miracle. The Yanks collapsed, don't get me wrong, and they got crushed in game 7, didn't even make a show of it.

            The sox had 30 days to win one more stinkin game and they couldn't...they didn't get stung by the eventual WS champs, they lost to one of the worst teams in baseball multiple times over the last 3 series...they had multiple chances to change the mojo, multiple chances to put it away..they got smoked by the Rays, at home, in a series that could have ended it weeks ago. And they played .800 baseball for 4 months...they were easily the 2nd best team in baseball for the year, they weren't lucky to be at the top and suddenly hit midnight...they were the best and just ****ed it away.
            This. Emphasis mine.

            Did you hear Papelbon's interview in the locker room? He was kind of incoherent.

            And as for My Red Sox Boyfriend saying it wasn't in God's plan...I believe it was God's plan for this to happen to weed out all the Pink Hats. Maybe they'll go away now.

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            • Re: The 2011 Boston Red Sox: This Space for Rent

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              Absolutely. The Yankee collapse is in a league of its own.
              Not even close to 04.
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              • Re: The 2011 Boston Red Sox: This Space for Rent

                Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                Adrian Gonzalez lets us know who is really at fault for the epic collapse.



                Finally! An athlete that isn't afraid to praise God when they win and blame God when they lose!
                So refreshing...

                Anyways, do you Sox fans want Theo and Francona gone? How big of a house cleaning do you want?
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                • Re: The 2011 Boston Red Sox: This Space for Rent

                  Originally posted by Rover View Post
                  This was worse than '78 I think (although I don't remember that season) ...
                  I was around for '78, and I'd guess that was harder for Red Sox fans because a) it involved losing a final game to the Yanks; b) the team that profited was the NYY; c) it happened at Fenway; d) the Sox were still living under "The Curse."
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                    Originally posted by MountieBoyOz View Post
                    So refreshing...

                    Anyways, do you Sox fans want Theo and Francona gone? How big of a house cleaning do you want?
                    I wouldn't.

                    Drew shouldn't be back. Lackey can go although I don't know the cost implications of that. Other than that, unless theo and Tito simply can't work together I bring them back; ditto for Wake and Paps. sure people want to respond harshly...after a week and viewed in context of who would be better for the jobs...i wouldn't bring in a new GM or manager.

                    I think we need at least one sub that is crazy, and one relief pitcher that talks to the rosin bag, not a bunch of low key guys.
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                    • Re: The 2011 Boston Red Sox: This Space for Rent

                      Theo needs to get Scott Cashman drunk and offer John Lackey for a bag of batting practice baseballs.

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                      • Originally posted by hockeyplayer1015 View Post
                        Honest, related question. How do you guys stack this collapse up against the Yankees also epic fail in 2004 ALCS? I'm having a pretty tough time figuring out which is worse.
                        the yankee collapse of losing four straight to allow the sox to advance to the ws was the most epic fail of all time. luckily for bc football fans it happened here, removing the "worst collapse that happened in new england" from them for the reg season ending defeat they suffered vs syracuse, 17-43. if bc had beaten, AT HOME, that pathetic team they would have made their only BCS game in their final big east season. instead they choked away that chance.

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                          Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                          the yankee collapse of losing four straight to allow the sox to advance to the ws was the most epic fail of all time. luckily for bc football fans it happened here, removing the "worst collapse that happened in new england" from them for the reg season ending defeat they suffered vs syracuse, 17-43. if bc had beaten, AT HOME, that pathetic team they would have made their only BCS game in their final big east season. instead they choked away that chance.

                          Games 6 and 7 of that collapse were in New York

                          The Red Sox need to get more from the rotation. Players with 4 or more starts/Players with 24+ starts:

                          Boston 9/3
                          Tampa 7/4
                          Yankees 6/5
                          Detroit 6/4
                          Texas 5/5

                          Arizona 9/4
                          Milwaukee 6/5
                          Phillies 7/3
                          St Louis 6/4

                          The Red Sox also received 23 starts from Wakefield, who started the season in the bullpen. The losses of Buchholz and Dice-K really hurt. Say what you will about Dice-K, but he averaged 25 starts and 146 IP coming into this season. They were #1 in almost every offensive category, but 28th in quality starts.

                          Get rid of Lackey, use JD's $14M to find a 4/5 starter and hope Crawford and Gonzalez start living up to those contracts.

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                          • Re: The 2011 Boston Red Sox: This Space for Rent

                            Francona reportedly gone?

                            Not sure I agree, if it indeed the truth.

                            Priceless, agree with you totally about Crawford, but Gonzalez had a pretty decent season. I know he more or less disappeared in September, but he was a boa fide MVP candidate for a good portion of the season. And I'm not just saying that because he's My Red Sox Boyfriend.

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                            • Re: The 2011 Boston Red Sox: This Space for Rent

                              Originally posted by Scarlet View Post
                              [Priceless, agree with you totally about Crawford, but Gonzalez had a pretty decent season. I know he more or less disappeared in September, but he was a boa fide MVP candidate for a good portion of the season. And I'm not just saying that because he's My Red Sox Boyfriend.
                              We'll have to see what God has in the cards for Gonzalez. I have a real problem with a guy who is supposed to be a leader dropping it in God's lap. By his reasoning, you can be fat, lazy bums who play like dog turds and if it's part of "God's Plan" for you to win, you will; on the other hand, you can give 100%, play spotless baseball and if God decides you're going to lose anyway, there's nothing you can do about it. Maybe he should sacrifice a lamb or something to placate the Almighty.

                              As for Tito, I seriously wonder if he really wants to be the manager of this team. In many cases the players are just interested in collecting their paycheck and then making excuses when they suck (did John Lackey ever once say he pitched a bad game?) plus his health isn't stellar.

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                              • Re: The 2011 Boston Red Sox: This Space for Rent

                                If Tito wanted/wants out, can't blame him. Good luck to him.

                                If Theo wanted to keep Tito, but was overruled by John Henry...that's BS. John Henry should not be making managerial decisions.

                                Theo should be gone. Problem is, I can't see John Henry ever getting rid of his boyfriend.

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