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  • Obama 7 - now what?

    Meanwhile, back in the Nation's Capital......

    Has anyone heard radio ads advertising FHA loans with, it seems, very little qualification required?? If I did hear it correctly, why hasn't anyone shown FHA the past 24 months?
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    ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
    - Benjamin Franklin

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    Re: Obama 7 - now what?

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    Meanwhile, back in the Nation's Capital......

    Has anyone heard radio ads advertising FHA loans with, it seems, very little qualification required?? If I did hear it correctly, why hasn't anyone shown FHA the past 24 months?
    The bank I work for is a top 10 originator of FHA loans in the nation. I've been working with FHA/HUD/VA/USDA loans for 6 years now and the qualifications aren't "much" different than your typical FNMA conventional product.

    Perhaps it was an ad for an FHA refinance? If you already have an FHA loan and you don't have more than one 30 day late in the last 12 months it's easy to qualify. A verbal verification of employment is done, no income verification and no asset verfication. It make sense for anyone with over a 6% FHA interest rate to take advantage of this program. A lot of people are making less money than they were when they first got into the loan. It's a great way to lower your payment, without an appraisal or income/asset verification.
    TECH STILL SUCKS!

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      Re: Obama 7 - now what?

      The FHA may be in need of a bailout itself before long:

      http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/09/bu...9fha.html?_r=1

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        And then we have this... Pinched it from here: http://merecomments.typepad.com/mere...sus-belli.html

        Today in the library I assisted a young teacher (who seemed quite bright and pleasant), working on a Master's--a Master's--degree at a local university. For one of his classes he had to compile a bibliography of fiction and non-fiction sources for high school students on the causes and pursuit of war. After I showed him where to browse for non-fiction titles and introduced him to our periodical databases, we started on fiction. The Red Badge of Courage? Unfamiliar to him. All Quiet on the Western Front and Catch-22 likewise. What about the Iliad? He'd never heard of it, but it sounded interesting. Homer who? I swear this is true. It happened today.

        This experience, perhaps more than any other similar ones in recent years, brought home to me how the bottom is falling out of our culture. Let us not go gentle into that good night.
        No graduate left behind....
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        4 kids
        5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
        1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

        ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
        - Benjamin Franklin

        Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).

        I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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          Re: Obama 7 - now what?

          Originally posted by Bill View Post
          The FHA may be in need of a bailout itself before long:

          http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/09/bu...9fha.html?_r=1
          THIS is troubling:

          *****http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/10/09/business/1009-biz-webFHAbig.gif******
          CCT '77 & '78
          4 kids
          5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
          1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

          ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
          - Benjamin Franklin

          Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).

          I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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            Re: Obama 7 - now what?

            Originally posted by joecct View Post
            And then we have this... Pinched it from here: http://merecomments.typepad.com/mere...sus-belli.html



            No graduate left behind....
            Horrifying. This country was built on hard work and pursuit of the American Dream through either education or using your two hands to make something of yourself or both.

            Since making your American Dream a reality using your hands went out of fashionability, we still had education for a while. But we have devalued education to make sure everyone gets one...instead of making the people who actually want something out of their educations the priority!
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              Re: Obama 7 - now what?

              Originally posted by Terrierbyassociation View Post
              Horrifying. This country was built on hard work and pursuit of the American Dream through either education or using your two hands to make something of yourself or both.

              Since making your American Dream a reality using your hands went out of fashionability, we still had education for a while. But we have devalued education to make sure everyone gets one...instead of making the people who actually want something out of their educations the priority!
              All while ensuring that everyone who goes for this "education" ends up in crippling debt if they want to get an education that will actually get them a job worth having.

              Hooray!
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                Re: Obama 7 - now what?

                Originally posted by GreatLakerMohawk View Post
                All while ensuring that everyone who goes for this "education" ends up in crippling debt if they want to get an education that will actually get them a job worth having.

                Hooray!
                That's the second part of my essay of why America has gone downhill.

                The price of college and graduate school has radically increased way past the rate of inflation.

                It's a paradox, unless you go to college you probably can't get a good job these days. But if you don't go to a good school you usually have trouble getting a good job. And the good schools are usually very expensive and you spend half of your life just trying to pay those student loans off. And unless you go to a good state school, you're not getting that good job AND avoiding paying for the school for life.

                You need to go to college to get a good job, but even if you get a good job you spend most of the rest of your life paying for it.
                Feed The Hungry! Click once a day!

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                  I'm not even talking about just getting a Bachelor's Degree either, seeing some of the kids that have gone through and gotten their diplomas like that I could see the value of my degree already falling before I had it, and that's even before the job market started eliminating positions everywhere. Now you have to get a Masters or a doctorate to really achieve a good career because many of the jobs are either occupied or drying up.

                  The virtual elimination of trade schools hurts also because sometimes just learning an important craft would be more beneficial to the job market than another person floating through college getting a marketing or management degree.
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                    Re: Obama 7 - now what?

                    It would be nice if everyone in America could just learn at least one tangible skill that could benefit society on a whole.
                    Feed The Hungry! Click once a day!

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                      Re: Obama 7 - now what?

                      At the same time, it's drummed into people's heads that education is "elitist," intellectuals are bad, and knowing the Iliad is snobbery. Democracy, which depends on an educated and intelligent electorate, was replaced by Consumerism, which depends on a docile, discontented population with no innate ability to better themselves and a hunger to buy happiness.
                      Last edited by Kepler; 10-12-2009, 10:43 PM.
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                        Re: Obama 7 - now what?

                        Originally posted by Terrierbyassociation View Post
                        Horrifying. This country was built on hard work and pursuit of the American Dream through either education or using your two hands to make something of yourself or both.

                        Since making your American Dream a reality using your hands went out of fashionability, we still had education for a while. But we have devalued education to make sure everyone gets one...instead of making the people who actually want something out of their educations the priority!
                        I'll take anything that site says with a nice spoonful of salt.

                        They appear angry that young people are less religious, or educated, which that other post is crying about. Where does any work by Homer fit in with Christian philosophy? Half of it is how the characters appease the Greek Gods.
                        http://merecomments.typepad.com/mere...ification.html

                        Angry that they can't harass people going to an abortion clinic in Chicago.
                        http://merecomments.typepad.com/mere...n-chicago.html

                        And telling people to shove more god into their lives, because without it nothing gets done apparently.
                        http://merecomments.typepad.com/mere...bout-god-.html

                        And bah, the "American Dream" is the kind of quaint greeting card that's rather out of sync with reality. America is what it is today because the people before us were willing to lie, steal, cheat, and swindle whatever they wanted without regards to the consequences.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Obama 7 - now what?

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          At the same time, it's drummed into people's heads that education is "elitist," intellectuals are bad, and knowing the Iliad is snobbery. Democracy, which depends on an educated and intelligent electorate, was replaced by Consumerism, which depends on a docile, discontented population with no innate ability to better themselves and a hunger to buy happiness.
                          And gives rise to such horrifying phrases as: free gift, real butter and genuine leather! Literacy tests were given a bad name by southern racists: white guy asked to read comic book--black guy asked to read engineering diagrams for Hoover Dam. But assuming we could norm them, literacy tests for potential voters might not be such a bad idea.

                          Memo: save yourselves the effort, this is meant to be deliberately provocative.
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                            Re: Obama 7 - now what?

                            Originally posted by Old Pio View Post
                            And gives rise to such horrifying phrases as: free gift, real butter and genuine leather! Literacy tests were given a bad name by southern racists: white guy asked to read comic book--black guy asked to read engineering diagrams for Hoover Dam. But assuming we could norm them, literacy tests for potential voters might not be such a bad idea.

                            Memo: save yourselves the effort, this is meant to be deliberately provocative.
                            I'd prefer some kind of test for the people running for the offices.
                            Last edited by Foxton; 10-12-2009, 11:05 PM.

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                              Re: Obama 7 - now what?

                              Originally posted by Old Pio View Post
                              But assuming we could norm them, literacy tests for potential voters might not be such a bad idea.
                              Give everybody a choice: you can vote or have a free lottery ticket. Let em self-select.
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