Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

Oakland swept us also during this losing streak. Kind of convenient to forget that.

Ok, yes, I did forget that. That wasn't good. But let's not pretend we are better than the yankees.

[JF_Gophers]

Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

Or, you have a string of injuries to players so important you simply cannot put the team back together (see: Red Sox, Boston).

Again, I'm not trying to say we shouldn't want to win the WS, but this expectation now that we are spending more than then mid-90s is a little insane when other teams are spending $40 million or $60 million more than us or even doubling (and then some) our payroll.

I just think the twins have gotten a bit unlucky in getting the yankees every postseason in the first round. I think we would have beaten any of the other teams. I really do. Sure, we would have had to play the yankees at some point but an ALCS would have been nice.

Oakland swept us also during this losing streak. Kind of convenient to forget that.

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

If you fail with payrolls that high then you have poor GM skills. You are overpaying guys or you don't have an eye for talent and guys who fit the team chemistry.

World Series or bust when you are in that 150-200+ mil range.

Or, you have a string of injuries to players so important you simply cannot put the team back together (see: Red Sox, Boston).

Again, I'm not trying to say we shouldn't want to win the WS, but this expectation now that we are spending more than then mid-90s is a little insane when other teams are spending $40 million or $60 million more than us or even doubling (and then some) our payroll.

I just think the twins have gotten a bit unlucky in getting the yankees every postseason in the first round. I think we would have beaten any of the other teams. I really do. Sure, we would have had to play the yankees at some point but an ALCS would have been nice.

[JF_Gophers]

Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

If $96 million is worth an ALCS, then what is $220 million worth? What about $160 million? $140 million?

If you fail with payrolls that high then you have poor GM skills. You are overpaying guys or you don't have an eye for talent and guys who fit the team chemistry.

World Series or bust when you are in that 150-200+ mil range.

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

If $96 million is worth an ALCS, then what is $220 million worth? What about $160 million? $140 million?

[JF_Gophers]

Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

I'll cut Morneau slack when it comes to the concussion. If it was a year or two years ago he wouldn't have sat out the entire second half.

The new concussion awareness (which is good btw) is what kept him out.

But I do agree he needs to go through next season healthy (130+ games) to keep me on board.

[GOPHER FREAK]

Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

You also have to at least look at getting rid of Morneau. He is great when healthy which is almost never. The team seems to do fine without him and it frees up a lot of money for a good #1 starter. I don't think you can really get much for him, But you really need to dump that $15M a year to get a half season out of the guy.

For example,

Justin Morneau-- $15,000,000
Roy Halladay--$15,750,000
Roy Oswalt-- $15,000,000
Cliff Lee--$9,000,000


But I guess it's better than paying Nathan $11.25M for nothing this season. I certainly prefer Capps at $3.25M.

[johnnyredshoes]

Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

Gotta agree completely on the Kubel topic. It will be tough to get rid of him though, he's one of those "Gardy Guys" who seem to keep getting in the lineup day after day no matter what they do.

[JF_Gophers]

Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

Priorities:

- Find an ace pitcher to be on the front end of the staff. Let Liriano be a #2.
- Replace J.J. Hardy.
- Replace Orlando Hudson if he is retiring or we can find a younger version of him.
- Replace Jason Kubel. Which I am pretty sure I said before this season as well. He is not our #4 guy of the future. Time to cut ties.
- Tell Gardenhire that Division titles are not good enough and he will be fired if they can't get over the hump in the next year. $96 mil should be at least worth an ALCS.

[Beer Pong Horn]

...so we can let it air out from the scent of the Twins crapping the bed.