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  • #31
    Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

    According to articles earlier in the year (May). Things could of changed since then as far as re-signings during the season.

    Free Agents: Carl Pavano, Orlando Hudson, Matt Guerrier, Jesse Crain, Jim Thome.
    Arbitration: Slowey, Casilla, Young, Liriano, Neshek, Condrey, Hardy.

    - Jason Kubel has a club option year ($5.25m) or a small buyout ($350k).
    - Nick Punto has a club option year ($5m) or a small buyout ($500k).

    Pay increases coming to Cuddyer, Blackburn and Baker.
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    • #32
      Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

      I dunno, since I wouldnt do it now technically I wouldnt have to think about that until next year

      I can tell you it wouldnt be someone that is a "players coach" I want someone to light a fire under these guys butts. Who that is, honestly I am not sure but I if I had the resources of a GM I probably would

      Also, to be fair if he didnt put up a fight with the firing of his friends Liddle and Ulger I probably would be more lenient.

      edit: I would sign Pavano and Thome, let Guerrier go most likely and have to think about O-Hud and Crain. (see what they want) Buyout Kubel and let him go bye bye.
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      • #33
        Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

        Also here is the potential free agent list for 2011.

        http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/200...-for-2011.html
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        • #34
          Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

          Originally posted by Handyman View Post
          I dunno, since I wouldnt do it now technically I wouldnt have to think about that until next year

          I can tell you it wouldnt be someone that is a "players coach" I want someone to light a fire under these guys butts. Who that is, honestly I am not sure but I if I had the resources of a GM I probably would

          Also, to be fair if he didnt put up a fight with the firing of his friends Liddle and Ulger I probably would be more lenient.

          edit: I would sign Pavano and Thome, let Guerrier go most likely and have to think about O-Hud and Crain. (see what they want) Buyout Kubel and let him go bye bye.
          Buy out Kubel, and try to resign for cheap.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by MaizeRage View Post
            But according to Dick Bremer last night, the Twins were the far superior team in that series.

            Also, it was hilarious watching Bremer treat Justin Morneau's projected RBI total like the cost of Gob Bluth's suit. By the end of the night, Morneau was on pace to hit about 180 RBIs this season. I bet Mauer wishes he had shut it down for the season when he had that little injury at the end of the year, rather than having to eat all the **** for his team choking again.
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            • #36
              Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

              Well, if we're going to play armchair psychologist, how about if the problem is Minnesota is the kind of place where certain people can feel free to do their jobs without fear of firing, being booed, etc. And that leads to teams that pretty much get along, and do pretty well. But to get to the really highest level of play, you need something more than that, and something not so nice.

              The two examples that jump to mind are 1) Pavano -- I think a big reason why he's done well here is that the fans -- and the players, I'd have to think -- let him do his job, and don't throw him under the bus after one or two shaky appearances, and 2) Kent Hrbek -- I've always hated Kent Hrbek, and it all stems from pulling Ron Gant off the bag and then playing like the little ***** kid we all knew growing up who doesn't know what you're talking about. That's a d!ck move to me. But I have to admit, he knew how to win when it mattered.

              I know those aren't great examples -- Pavano's pitched great in the playoffs for us. But I agree with Handyman (unless I'm misreading you) -- I don't think you can have both. So I don't know if there is a solution. It seems like most teams are either Kansas City/Seattle/Pittsburgh (almost always sucking though probably a nice place to see a game) or Mets/Phillies/Dodgers (almost always spending buckets and buckets and still having nasty and grumpy fans). And we've got this tenuous in-between. I dunno. I'm keeping my season tickets. I'm a masochist, I guess.
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              • #37
                Gant's momentum carried him off the bag.

                That is all.

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                • #38
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                  Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                  Jebus crispus you're an angry mofo. I'm sure Bremer is the only homer dope in all of announcing, right?
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                  • #39
                    Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

                    Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                    Gant's momentum carried him off the bag.

                    That is all.
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                    • #40
                      Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

                      Originally posted by JF_Gophers View Post
                      Also here is the potential free agent list for 2011.

                      http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/200...-for-2011.html
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                      • #41
                        Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

                        Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                        Jebus crispus you're an angry mofo. I'm sure Bremer is the only homer dope in all of announcing, right?
                        Certainly not the only, but definitely one of the biggest. Besides, "Other people say stupid ****" isn't much of a defense for someone saying "Every professional sports team could learn from the Twins" because their wives made a quilt.


                        Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                        Buy out Kubel, and try to resign for cheap.
                        Not saying they should or shouldn't resign him, but you're crazy if you think signing a 90 RBI guy--Kubel or otherwise-- for less than $5.5 million is even a possibility, especially with this free agent market. They tried the same thing two years ago with Nick Punto, and ended up having to way overpay(way, way, way overpay) just to get him back.

                        Not to mention that I can't imagine power hitters lining up for the opportunity to play at Target Field.
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                        • #42
                          Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

                          Originally posted by Bakunin View Post
                          While the team failed miserably at clutch hitting, it doesn't change the fact that the pitching staff gave up 5-6 runs per game.

                          FWIW, MN got two hits with RISP (one hit was a single with a guy on 2nd that did not score a run) last night.
                          They were 0-13 when I shut the TV off according to TBS. I saw a stat later that said 2-18 for the series.

                          This team wasn't designed to be a pitching powerhouse. It was designed to score runs. Even giving up 5-6 runs per game they should have won at least one of them this lineup.
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                          • #43
                            Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

                            Originally posted by Dude Love View Post
                            Yuck.
                            Really?

                            There is some talent on that list that if the Twin's management is serious about truly contending for a championship, they better at least be making some sort of effort to sign.

                            Take a guy like Carl Crawford. He'll be expensive, but he'd be a terrific addition to the Twins outfield.

                            The Twins could use a true ace at the head of their starting staff, and one or two professional hitters who are tough outs at the crucial times of the game.

                            The Twins should put all their money in a bucket and go try to sign Cliff Lee. They need to look at a hitter like Matsui of the Angels for a one year rental deal.

                            There is a lot of talent on that list that could go a long way towards making the Twins a much better team next year.
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                            • #44
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                              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                              They were 0-13 when I shut the TV off according to TBS. I saw a stat later that said 2-18 for the series.

                              This team wasn't designed to be a pitching powerhouse. It was designed to score runs. Even giving up 5-6 runs per game they should have won at least one of them this lineup.
                              Considering you're never going to be able to match the Yankees' lineup 1 through 9, it's not surprising that you're being curbstomped by them regularly if that's your plan. Teams have had success because their younger, cheaper pitching outdoes the Yankees' older pitching. When Detroit beat New York in 2006, they held the Yankees scoreless for 20 straight innings of games 2 to 4.
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                              • #45
                                Re: Minnesota Twins Offseason 2010-11: Well, at least we have the outdoor stadium...

                                Originally posted by bronconick View Post
                                Considering you're never going to be able to match the Yankees' lineup 1 through 9, it's not surprising that you're being curbstomped by them regularly if that's your plan. Teams have had success because their younger, cheaper pitching outdoes the Yankees' older pitching. When Detroit beat New York in 2006, they held the Yankees scoreless for 20 straight innings of games 2 to 4.
                                That's fine. But you still have to score to win. And you have to score hitting the baseball.

                                If you want to go the unearned run route you need the kind of pitching the Phillies have.
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