Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

They are.

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For the record I am completely on board with the proposal that we should pull all of our active duty military personnel serving overseas and station them along the Mexican border.

Be a pretty **** sweet deal for the local economy, too.

Love that idea.

[Bob Gray]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

They are.

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For the record I am completely on board with the proposal that we should pull all of our active duty military personnel serving overseas and station them along the Mexican border.

Be a pretty **** sweet deal for the local economy, too.

Well done.

[Kepler]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

If parts of downtown Des Moines were under the effective control of drug cartels

They are.

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For the record I am completely on board with the proposal that we should pull all of our active duty military personnel serving overseas and station them along the Mexican border.

Be a pretty **** sweet deal for the local economy, too.

[Bob Gray]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

Obviously, Bob, it's a tragedy for this officer's family. Everyone also recognizes it literally strikes a little closer to home for you than the rest of us.

On the other hand, he was a law enforcement officer. There are probably 150-200 law enforcement officers killed every year in this country, or a rate of about 1 every two days.

Is the Arizona border land as safe as a park in downtown Des Moines? Of course not. But I'm not ready to declare it a war zone either.

If parts of downtown Des Moines were under the effective control of drug cartels, it'd be a different story, which is the case for parts of southern Arizona near the border. The cartels have lookouts stationed and know who moves where much better than our law enforcement officials do. There are sizable chunks of southern Arizona that are in effect no-man's land. It's an eery thing when you go to southern Arizona, as I do on occasion, and there's areas they tell you to be sure to get out of there well before the sun goes down.

[SJHovey]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

Napolitano has been proclaiming for years how much safer it is along the border and taking credit for such "safety" for Obama.

Nuance is not your friend.

Obviously, Bob, it's a tragedy for this officer's family. Everyone also recognizes it literally strikes a little closer to home for you than the rest of us.

On the other hand, he was a law enforcement officer. There are probably 150-200 law enforcement officers killed every year in this country, or a rate of about 1 every two days.

Is the Arizona border land as safe as a park in downtown Des Moines? Of course not. But I'm not ready to declare it a war zone either.

[Bob Gray]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

That's not nuance and Napolitano is a dope if that's the proclamation.

OK, it's not nuance. It's obvious. But at least we can agree on something.

[Slap Shot]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

Napolitano has been proclaiming for years how much safer it is along the border and taking credit for such "safety" for Obama.

Nuance is not your friend.

That's not nuance and Napolitano is a dope if that's the proclamation.

[Bob Gray]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

This. Of course the nuance went over Bob's head (yes Bob, we're aware mankind cannot control hurricanes).

And I don't recall anyone referring to the Mexican border as safe or even "safe".

Napolitano has been proclaiming for years how much safer it is along the border and taking credit for such "safety" for Obama.

Nuance is not your friend.

[Slap Shot]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

Bob: Hurricanes are bad and Obama is to blame.

Rover: There were hurricanes before Obama.

Bob: Oh sure, blame Bush.

This. Of course the nuance went over Bob's head (yes Bob, we're aware mankind cannot control hurricanes).

And I don't recall anyone referring to the Mexican border as safe or even "safe".

[Bob Gray]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

You will never know how lucky you are to not know, and I won't spoil that blissful peace.

Much appreciated. Ignorance truly can be bliss!

[Kepler]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

I'm scared to ask where this is from.

You will never know how lucky you are to not know, and I won't spoil that blissful peace.

[Bob Gray]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

Well if that doesn't work, we can always just put a bunch of TV screens on the border and play this stuff on a loop:

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Come to think of it, nevermind. That might violate some stipulations in the Geneva convention.

Do we have any idea what long term exposure to this might do to people, especially young children and their development?

I'm scared to ask where this is from.

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

Everything bad that's happened the last four years is the result of Bush policies. Everything good that's happened over the last four years is a credit to Obama. That's the narrative and they're sticking to it, regardless of how ridiculous it is.

The areas in question in southern Arizona have been unsafe and known drug smuggling areas for a long while. This event is entirely predictable. It was a question of when, not if, something like this would happen again. And reports are that it'll be hard to find those who did it. Says something that our border agents can be ambushed, killed, and wounded, but we aren't on top of things enough to even have a good shot to apprehend the culprits.

And when we have a good shot to apprehend the culprits, the border patrol agents are then the ones arrested for some asinine reason that makes no sense.

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

Well if that doesn't work, we can always just put a bunch of TV screens on the border and play this stuff on a loop:

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Come to think of it, nevermind. That might violate some stipulations in the Geneva convention.

[Bob Gray]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

Yes, I concede her face might scare off some wildlife too like the armadillos and maybe even a few cactii but I think the trade off is worth it!

No, you want to scar the beautiful and remote Arizona landscape with billboards and all the destruction of the environment such construction would entail. For shame.