Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

[ericredaxe]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

Then I'll ask you the same question: When is someone committing a crime not illegal?

I'm no legal expert, and committing a crime is always illegal, but I think technically unofan is correct. To be in the country illegally is a civil offense and not a criminal one. Thus not all illegal aliens are criminals. Similar to if you get a speeding ticket it is illegal to speed but you are not necesarially a criminal if you do so.

I also do not have a problem with the term illegal alien.

Edit: Again I have no legal training but reading up more on US Code it appears that there is a difference between someone who enters illegally (criminal violation) and someone who enters legally but overstays (civil offense).

[joecct]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

Then I'll ask you the same question: When is someone committing a crime not illegal?

When their last name begins with a K and ends with a y

[FlagDUDE08]

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When their last name begins with a K and ends with a y

I c wut u did thar

It does say in the Constitution (Article I Section 6 Clause 1): "They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place." However, I think what that person did, assuming they were representing at the time, was a felony.

[Kepler]

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When their last name begins with a K and ends with a y

Danny Kay?

[joecct]

Danny Kay?

Kaye.

[Kepler]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

Kaye.

Well, that's embarrassing.

Grace Kelly?

[FlagDUDE08]

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Well, that's embarrassing.

Grace Kelly?

Gene.

[Bob Gray]

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After much bluster, four years of investigations, multiple grand juries, etc., the feds drop their investigations into Sheriff Joe Arpaio and former county attorney Andrew Thomas with apparently no explanation.

http://www.azfamily.com/news/US-Atto...168230356.html

Sheriff Joe 1, Feds 0.

[bronconick]

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But the good news is that an appeals court is letting a pair of news executives continue their lawsuit against him for false arrest, so he'll still have something to do besides trips to Hawaii for birth certificates

[Bob Gray]

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But the good news is that an appeals court is letting a pair of news executives continue their lawsuit against him for false arrest, so he'll still have something to do besides trips to Hawaii for birth certificates

News executives is a charitable description forthose folks who run that operation.

[Bob Gray]

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Another border patrol agent gunned down on our "safe" border with Mexico.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/10...gling-corridor

Wonder if we'll find a reason to apologize to Mexico for this?

[Rover]

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No doubt this is all Obama's fault though, right Bob? Because, as everybody knows, there were no law enforcement deaths in the US during the Bush I, Bush II or Reagan administrations....

[Bob Gray]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

No doubt this is all Obama's fault though, right Bob? Because, as everybody knows, there were no law enforcement deaths in the US during the Bush I, Bush II or Reagan administrations....

Not all his fault, no, you pessimist you.

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

No doubt this is all Obama's fault though, right Bob? Because, as everybody knows, there were no law enforcement deaths in the US during the Bush I, Bush II or Reagan administrations....

No doubt this is all Bush's fault though, right Rover? Because, as everybody knows, there were no law enforcement deaths in the US during the Clinton or Carter administrations....

[Bob Gray]

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No doubt this is all Bush's fault though, right Rover? Because, as everybody knows, there were no law enforcement deaths in the US during the Clinton or Carter administrations....

Everything bad that's happened the last four years is the result of Bush policies. Everything good that's happened over the last four years is a credit to Obama. That's the narrative and they're sticking to it, regardless of how ridiculous it is.

The areas in question in southern Arizona have been unsafe and known drug smuggling areas for a long while. This event is entirely predictable. It was a question of when, not if, something like this would happen again. And reports are that it'll be hard to find those who did it. Says something that our border agents can be ambushed, killed, and wounded, but we aren't on top of things enough to even have a good shot to apprehend the culprits.