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  • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

    Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
    Frankly I have wondered and as the study alludes to...if the real damage was done under the GOP over the last decade. We heard very little about this until there was a change in the white house...and though the symptoms may continue, the underlying cause seems to be far better addressed:

    "With net migration from Mexico now at zero, the role of Asian-Americans has become more important," he said.

    The Pew analysis, released Tuesday, said the tipping point for Asian immigrants likely occurred during 2009 as illegal immigrants crossing the border from Mexico sharply declined due to increased immigration enforcement and a dwindling supply of low-wage work in the weak U.S. economy.
    It's been an issue for quite a few years and was a high profile issue when Bush was in office also. It didn't appear from nowhere in 2009. But, Obama has been even worse than Bush was on border issues, only begrudgingly giving a little ground after much armtwisting (at least when it comes to securing the border), so no surprise that it continues to get headlines. But I can understand that you might notice it more now, as it's Obama being complained about, rather than Bush.
    Originally posted by Priceless
    Good to see you're so reasonable.
    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
    Very well, said.
    Originally posted by Rover
    A fair assessment Bob.

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    • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

      Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
      Is that really your full list of evidence that he's a socialist? That's actually quite zero compared to what he could accomplish as the most powerful person in the world.
      No, not at all. These are just some of the major 'radicals' our President has associated with during his life. The list of socialists is much longer. Starting with his mother and grandparents as a child, and continuing on through to Delores Huerta, whom the President just recently awarded the Medal of Freedom. Then of course there are the policies and actions that he has taken that further indicate he is a socialist.
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      • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

        Originally posted by ExileOnDaytonStreet View Post
        In a way, lazily referring to what other people say about the subject instead of having your own answer illustrates my point better than I ever could have dreamed.
        No. I don't think it does illustrate your point at all. I think you wanted to show that I don't know what the definition of socialism is. But finding the website of an organization dedicated to socialism clearly proves I'm on the right track.
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        • Originally posted by Wol4ine View Post
          No. I don't think it does illustrate your point at all. I think you wanted to show that I don't know what the definition of socialism is. But finding the website of an organization dedicated to socialism clearly proves I'm on the right track.
          Or that you know who to defer to. You might as well copy and paste it from Webster's. Neither of which tells me what you really think about it.
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          • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

            Originally posted by Wol4ine
            Then of course there are the policies and actions that he has taken that further indicate he is a socialist.
            I really hope this the platform mitt runs upon.

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            • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

              Originally posted by Wol4ine View Post
              No, not at all. These are just some of the major 'radicals' our President has associated with during his life. The list of socialists is much longer. Starting with his mother and grandparents as a child, and continuing on through to Delores Huerta, whom the President just recently awarded the Medal of Freedom. Then of course there are the policies and actions that he has taken that further indicate he is a socialist.
              And yet with all these supposed associations, the most powerful man in the world chose to champion...lets see...zero socialist policies?
              Go Gophers!

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              • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

                Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                And yet with all these supposed associations, the most powerful man in the world chose to champion...lets see...zero socialist policies?
                I don't like his wealth redistribution ideas, but that seems to be most of the left side of the Democratic party.

                I don't like government by decree. Congress passes the laws and the Executive enforces it. The issuing of Executive Orders as legislation bothers me.

                I think he's over his head. When he was elected I said something to the effect of "having is not the same as wanting." I think BHO is realizing that being President is HARD.
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                • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

                  A pretty funny t-shirt a guy was wearing yesterday.

                  Q: Do you believe there are too many illegal immigrants in the U.S.?

                  Yes -- 16%
                  No -- 22%
                  No Comprende -- 62%

                  That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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                  • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

                    Originally posted by joecct View Post
                    I don't like his wealth redistribution ideas, but that seems to be most of the left side of the Democratic party.

                    I don't like government by decree. Congress passes the laws and the Executive enforces it. The issuing of Executive Orders as legislation bothers me.

                    I think he's over his head. When he was elected I said something to the effect of "having is not the same as wanting." I think BHO is realizing that being President is HARD.
                    I don't disagree. But you make it seem that for Obama this is obvious...and for the GOP, nada.

                    The easiest comparison is with Bush as he's been the only GOP president for decades. Did Bush's behaviors seem like being president was easy? Did it seem like he played the role of hanging back and letting the legislature do its thing? I remember quite a bit of bull in the china shop.

                    And regarding executive orders...its not like Obama's administration has been full of 'em. But during the debates, I think almost every single GOP candidate claimed they had several executive orders ready in repealing recent policy to go day one. Obama may have done it...the GOP is wearing executive orders as a badge of honor.

                    So if you're reason for disliking Obama is as you say...then you've got somewhere between comparable and far worse in the GOP.
                    Go Gophers!

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                    • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

                      Originally posted by Wol4ine View Post
                      No, not at all. These are just some of the major 'radicals' our President has associated with during his life. The list of socialists is much longer. Starting with his mother and grandparents as a child, and continuing on through to Delores Huerta, whom the President just recently awarded the Medal of Freedom. Then of course there are the policies and actions that he has taken that further indicate he is a socialist.
                      This is why talk radio is still in business. Just when you think that everybody knows that the laugh lines people scream on air are just to stir the pot, along comes a reminder that there are millions of people who are actually taken in.
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                      • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

                        PRI takes back power in Mexico. For the folks who really follow this stuff closely (Bob), does the party change make any difference to Mexican emigration policy?
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                        • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          PRI takes back power in Mexico. For the folks who really follow this stuff closely (Bob), does the party change make any difference to Mexican emigration policy?
                          I'm not sure it's going to change a lot on the emigration front. The bigger question is what changes this may lead to regarding the war on drugs. During Nieto's campaign he talked about reducing voilence in Mexico. People have taken this various ways, including possibly trying to tone down the army's pursuit of drug cartels. So, to me that's the area to watch for change.
                          Originally posted by Priceless
                          Good to see you're so reasonable.
                          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                          Very well, said.
                          Originally posted by Rover
                          A fair assessment Bob.

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                          • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

                            This would be funny if it wasn't real. I'm not a big union guy, but they got this one right. Yes, if our Border Patrol agents would only run away, threatening situations would resolved.

                            http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/29...urse-promotes/
                            Originally posted by Priceless
                            Good to see you're so reasonable.
                            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                            Very well, said.
                            Originally posted by Rover
                            A fair assessment Bob.

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                            • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

                              So, you come into the country illegally, and you don't want to be called illegal because you think doing something illegal doesn't make you a criminal? http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/i...abel-1.3916690

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                              • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

                                Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                                So, you come into the country illegally, and you don't want to be called illegal because you think doing something illegal doesn't make you a criminal? http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/i...abel-1.3916690
                                And you're intolerant and hateful if you even use the term illegal to describe something that's illegal.
                                Originally posted by Priceless
                                Good to see you're so reasonable.
                                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                                Very well, said.
                                Originally posted by Rover
                                A fair assessment Bob.

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