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  • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

    Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    Then I'll ask you the same question: When is someone committing a crime not illegal?
    I'm no legal expert, and committing a crime is always illegal, but I think technically unofan is correct. To be in the country illegally is a civil offense and not a criminal one. Thus not all illegal aliens are criminals. Similar to if you get a speeding ticket it is illegal to speed but you are not necesarially a criminal if you do so.

    I also do not have a problem with the term illegal alien.

    Edit: Again I have no legal training but reading up more on US Code it appears that there is a difference between someone who enters illegally (criminal violation) and someone who enters legally but overstays (civil offense).
    Last edited by ericredaxe; 08-21-2012, 08:03 PM.

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    • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

      Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
      Then I'll ask you the same question: When is someone committing a crime not illegal?
      When their last name begins with a K and ends with a y
      CCT '77 & '78
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      5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
      1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

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      - Benjamin Franklin

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      • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

        Originally posted by joecct View Post
        When their last name begins with a K and ends with a y
        I c wut u did thar

        It does say in the Constitution (Article I Section 6 Clause 1): "They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place." However, I think what that person did, assuming they were representing at the time, was a felony.

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        • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

          Originally posted by joecct View Post
          When their last name begins with a K and ends with a y
          Danny Kay?
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          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            Danny Kay?
            Kaye.
            CCT '77 & '78
            4 kids
            5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
            1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

            ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
            - Benjamin Franklin

            Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).

            I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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            • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

              Originally posted by joecct View Post
              Kaye.
              Well, that's embarrassing.

              Grace Kelly?
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              ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
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              • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                Well, that's embarrassing.

                Grace Kelly?
                Gene.

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                • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

                  After much bluster, four years of investigations, multiple grand juries, etc., the feds drop their investigations into Sheriff Joe Arpaio and former county attorney Andrew Thomas with apparently no explanation.

                  http://www.azfamily.com/news/US-Atto...168230356.html

                  Sheriff Joe 1, Feds 0.
                  Originally posted by Priceless
                  Good to see you're so reasonable.
                  Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                  Very well, said.
                  Originally posted by Rover
                  A fair assessment Bob.

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                  • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

                    But the good news is that an appeals court is letting a pair of news executives continue their lawsuit against him for false arrest, so he'll still have something to do besides trips to Hawaii for birth certificates
                    "I went over the facts in my head, and admired how much uglier the situation had just become. Over the years I've learned that ignorance is more than just bliss. It's freaking orgasmic ecstasy".- Harry Dresden, Blood Rites


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                    • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

                      Originally posted by bronconick View Post
                      But the good news is that an appeals court is letting a pair of news executives continue their lawsuit against him for false arrest, so he'll still have something to do besides trips to Hawaii for birth certificates
                      News executives is a charitable description forthose folks who run that operation.
                      Originally posted by Priceless
                      Good to see you're so reasonable.
                      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                      Very well, said.
                      Originally posted by Rover
                      A fair assessment Bob.

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                      • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

                        Another border patrol agent gunned down on our "safe" border with Mexico.
                        http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/10...gling-corridor

                        Wonder if we'll find a reason to apologize to Mexico for this?
                        Originally posted by Priceless
                        Good to see you're so reasonable.
                        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                        Very well, said.
                        Originally posted by Rover
                        A fair assessment Bob.

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                        • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

                          No doubt this is all Obama's fault though, right Bob? Because, as everybody knows, there were no law enforcement deaths in the US during the Bush I, Bush II or Reagan administrations....
                          Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin

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                          • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

                            Originally posted by Rover View Post
                            No doubt this is all Obama's fault though, right Bob? Because, as everybody knows, there were no law enforcement deaths in the US during the Bush I, Bush II or Reagan administrations....
                            Not all his fault, no, you pessimist you.
                            Originally posted by Priceless
                            Good to see you're so reasonable.
                            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                            Very well, said.
                            Originally posted by Rover
                            A fair assessment Bob.

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                            • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

                              Originally posted by Rover View Post
                              No doubt this is all Obama's fault though, right Bob? Because, as everybody knows, there were no law enforcement deaths in the US during the Bush I, Bush II or Reagan administrations....
                              No doubt this is all Bush's fault though, right Rover? Because, as everybody knows, there were no law enforcement deaths in the US during the Clinton or Carter administrations....

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                              • Re: Illegal Immigration IV: Amnesty For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

                                Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                                No doubt this is all Bush's fault though, right Rover? Because, as everybody knows, there were no law enforcement deaths in the US during the Clinton or Carter administrations....
                                Everything bad that's happened the last four years is the result of Bush policies. Everything good that's happened over the last four years is a credit to Obama. That's the narrative and they're sticking to it, regardless of how ridiculous it is.

                                The areas in question in southern Arizona have been unsafe and known drug smuggling areas for a long while. This event is entirely predictable. It was a question of when, not if, something like this would happen again. And reports are that it'll be hard to find those who did it. Says something that our border agents can be ambushed, killed, and wounded, but we aren't on top of things enough to even have a good shot to apprehend the culprits.
                                Originally posted by Priceless
                                Good to see you're so reasonable.
                                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                                Very well, said.
                                Originally posted by Rover
                                A fair assessment Bob.

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