College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

[Old Pio]

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Back in the days of the Southwest conference (when cheating was, shall we say, rampant) a Houston TV station did a series reporting on recruiting corruption. I'll never forget the young executive who was a TCU supporter saying the going rate for a top flight running back was 25-30,000 dollars! Texas CHRISTIAN University. Much later the Southern Baptist Convention's Baylor reached the bottom of the pit when a basketball player tapped a teammate behind the ear with a 9mm slug. And the then basketball coach reasoned that since the kid was dead, his reputation didn't matter any more, so he'd implicate the kid to divert suspicion from his own involvement in drugs and cheating and who knows what else?

[amherstblackbear]

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South Carolina is in the SEC and it snows in Oregon, so of course they've never played.

You forgot to mention that Jeff Jackson didn't win a title again this year.

[Priceless]

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You forgot to mention that Jeff Jackson didn't win a title again this year.

I didn't see any reason to besmirch the basketball team at Furman. They're not exactly a national power.

[amherstblackbear]

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I didn't see any reason to besmirch the basketball team at Furman. They're not exactly a national power.

*Sigh*

I'll explain it. Jeff Jackson is utterly irrelevant to the conversation. Your shtick about regular season scheduling? Also irrelevant. SC played UConn and Iowa in bowl games, why not an equally random west coast team?

Anyway, digression over.

[UCBadger]

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I assume they are taking book in Vegas on what teams end up in what conferences, right?

[Craig P.]

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Something for USC to think about while they ponder their planned appeal... Joe McKnight didn't figure into this report. There might be a little bit of a Sword of Damocles hanging over the head of USC on that point right now.

[Priceless]

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I assume they are taking book in Vegas on what teams end up in what conferences, right?

I don't know about Vegas, but there might be a bookie at USC...

[Priceless]

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*Sigh*

I'll explain it. Jeff Jackson is utterly irrelevant to the conversation. Your shtick about regular season scheduling? Also irrelevant. SC played UConn and Iowa in bowl games, why not an equally random west coast team?

Anyway, digression over.

Oh, so the fact that they haven't played a cold weather game since the Kennedy Administration is irrelevant. Sorry. My bad.

[BoomGoestheDynamite]

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Taking digs at the SEC's OOC scheduling is traditional in college football, Must we throw out everything in the race to the super-conferences?

[dxmnkd316]

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Interesting. So they only passed legislation in 2007 that would allow them to take away BCS titles from teams that used ineligible players.

I love the arrogance of the NCAA. Who cares about ex post facto. We do what we want.

Weren't you the one whining and *****ing about the NCAA having nothing to do with the championship game?

[Priceless]

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Taking digs at the SEC's OOC scheduling is traditional in college football, Must we throw out everything in the race to the super-conferences?

Many traditions are dying. The Oklahoma/Nebraska rivalry that used to produce the Game of the Century of the Week is gone. USC is this close to the death penalty! Someone has to carry on some of the traditions.

Weren't you the one whining and *****ing about the NCAA having nothing to do with the championship game?

The NCAA was a great and wonderful organization until they dropped the hammer on a school he likes. Now they're evil incarnate.

[dxmnkd316]

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Well he is at work and I am unemployed so I figured I would try and help him out a bit

I don't think Kansas would be a detriment either. They wont raise the amount each team makes like a Texas or Notre Dame will, but I dont think the member schools will lose anything should they join. JMHO though.

hahaha, thanks Handy.

regarding it being a groundless assertion, Craig, I think you're completely ignoring the basketball side of the equation. Kansas is one of the premier teams in the nation. The cash they bring in coupled with the football money is amazing.

And let's not forget, if the #11 team in terms of total revenue can't make the cut, the list gets ridiculously short from there. What would Notre Dame bring to the table? Not a whole lot of new households as the BTN already covers that market. Where does notre dame's extra revenue come from?

The other thing you're forgetting, is that with the addition of these teams, the conference can host a championship game that will bring in some serious revenue itself.

It's late, I'm tired, and this reply is probably only half coherent so I'll probably have to clean up the fallout in the morning.

[Terrierbyassociation]

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Weren't you the one whining and *****ing about the NCAA having nothing to do with the championship game?

No, I just said that the NCAA doesn't actually regulate any of the bowl games or the BCS and they're not considered NCAA games. I don't actually know the NCAA legislation that allows them to ban teams from the postseason. I figure they have some deal with the bowls themselves that prevent bowls from inviting teams that are banned from participating.

I've always hated the NCAA, even if they got something right with Maine hockey they messed up here. Not just because it was my team...look at the punishments over the year for what happened. If you look at the other punishments, they're making an example of USC, and I never like that crap.

We've also never had a situation like this exactly.

[Craig P.]

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The other thing you're forgetting, is that with the addition of these teams, the conference can host a championship game that will bring in some serious revenue itself.

I'm not forgetting that at all. But that only applies for team #12 (the one that gets the Integer over the hump to having a championship game). It doesn't apply to team #13 and team #14.

As far as ND goes... I'm fairly certain we'd raise the value of the ESPN/ABC contract, because that would now have ND's home games in addition to just about all of ND's away games. I don't know that we'd give the BTN the eastern seaboard, but I'd bet we'd go farther to getting them a nice payday in NYC than Rutgers or Syracuse football. Would it be enough to pay for ourselves? I couldn't say, but it's more to the table than KU has. I really think you're overestimating how much basketball matters, but maybe the Big East just hasn't done a good job of selling themselves there.

[blockski]

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I'm not forgetting that at all. But that only applies for team #12 (the one that gets the Integer over the hump to having a championship game). It doesn't apply to team #13 and team #14.

As far as ND goes... I'm fairly certain we'd raise the value of the ESPN/ABC contract, because that would now have ND's home games in addition to just about all of ND's away games. I don't know that we'd give the BTN the eastern seaboard, but I'd bet we'd go farther to getting them a nice payday in NYC than Rutgers or Syracuse football. Would it be enough to pay for ourselves? I couldn't say, but it's more to the table than KU has. I really think you're overestimating how much basketball matters, but maybe the Big East just hasn't done a good job of selling themselves there.

Honestly, I don't think the Big Ten will automatically have a championship game, nor do I think championship games are automatic revenue machines. The ACC's certainly hasn't been one, and the SEC's big game still doesn't produce that much revenue once you split it 12 ways.

But yes, you're absolutely right that football is the key. KU's basketball program makes them a decent plan B for the Pac-16 if they don't get one of the schools they want.