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  • #196
    Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

    I think part of the USC deal is that the NCAA wants to make a firm statement that you can't look the otherway, say "La-la-la" really loudly while agents (who you invited into the locker room) cut deals with players behind your back, and then profess to be Shocked! that there is cheating going on here!

    While the USC staff may have, for the most part, done no more than turn a blind eye to most of the problems, that blind eye is in itself a big problem. It fostered a culture that gave the Trojans an unfair advantage.
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    • #197
      Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

      Going back into state politics again, would there be irritation from the Virginia government if Va Tech moved to the SEC 6 years after they strongarmed the Cavaliers into taking the Hokies over Syracuse?
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      • #198
        Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

        Oh, and since 2008, these are the only things that will allow for an appeal to overturn part of a punishment. Good luck with that, TBA.

        • The ruling was clearly contrary to the evidence.

        • The individual or school did not actually break NCAA rules.

        • There was a procedural error that caused the COI to find a violation.

        • The penalty is excessive AND is an abuse of discretion.

        You *could* try the last one, but the fact that they investigated this long probably means they were making sure the punishments would stick.
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        • #199
          Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

          Originally posted by Terrierbyassociation View Post
          Well the NCAA does think it has powers that our Founders didn't give to our Federal government or the State governments...
          There's no constitutional right to play DI sports, and the NCAA is not the government, and they don't have any obligation to conduct their own investigations in the same way that the government might. The NCAA's member institutions voluntarily agree to be bound by the NCAA's various rules and policies and its processes of enforcing those rules. If they don't like it, they can go play in whatever the west coast equivalent of the NESCAC is.
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          • #200
            Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

            Originally posted by jmh View Post
            There's no constitutional right to play DI sports, and the NCAA is not the government, and they don't have any obligation to conduct their own investigations in the same way that the government might. The NCAA's member institutions voluntarily agree to be bound by the NCAA's various rules and policies and its processes of enforcing those rules. If they don't like it, they can go play in whatever the west coast equivalent of the NESCAC is.
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            • #201
              Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

              Originally posted by bronconick View Post
              Going back into state politics again, would there be irritation from the Virginia government if Va Tech moved to the SEC 6 years after they strongarmed the Cavaliers into taking the Hokies over Syracuse?
              I don't know. UVA and its grads are pretty proud of their public ivy status bordering on insufferable at times. They're one of the few universities that might turn up their nose at a step down even with the increased revenue.

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              • #202
                Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                Originally posted by jmh View Post
                There's no constitutional right to play DI sports, and the NCAA is not the government, and they don't have any obligation to conduct their own investigations in the same way that the government might. The NCAA's member institutions voluntarily agree to be bound by the NCAA's various rules and policies and its processes of enforcing those rules. If they don't like it, they can go play in whatever the west coast equivalent of the NESCAC is.
                But this is USC we are talking about...USC!!!
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                • #203
                  Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                  Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                  But this is USC we are talking about...USC!!!
                  The new SMU!!

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                  • #204
                    Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                    Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                    But this is USC we are talking about...USC!!!
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                    • #205
                      Originally posted by Terrierbyassociation View Post
                      Of course I am, USC's coaches weren't actively cheating.
                      No, they just actively avoided doing anything about the cheating.

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                      • #206
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                        Yeah and posts like these show how sad it is. The guys are crooks and we and the people in charge let get away with it because they'll bring us a few wins in the short term and totally destory the school/team etc's image for the future.

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                        • #207
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                          Originally posted by JF_Gophers View Post
                          The Gamecocks?
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                          • #208
                            Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                            Good news! USC has hired former FBI Director Louis Freeh to help protect their student (LOL) athletes from agents.

                            That'll help!

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                            • #209
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                              Originally posted by bronconick View Post
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                              You know they love it.

                              Side note: have they ever played Oregon State? Just wonderin'
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                              • #210
                                Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                                Originally posted by amherstblackbear View Post
                                Side note: have they ever played Oregon State? Just wonderin'
                                South Carolina is in the SEC and it snows in Oregon, so of course they've never played.

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