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  • #31
    Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    I would like to think so, but they might run out of dates, unless the superconferences start pushing to longer seasons.

    ND makes $15M now. A B10 share is $20 now ($220M net) so if the B10 expands to 16 their contract would have to be renegotiated up to $240 for it to be competitive, but I guess that's a safe assumption with both ND and Nebraska in the fold.

    What happens with bowl game revenue, however? ND takes home their entire share now, while they would have to split it in conference (while also gaining their peers' splits of course).
    The Big Ten shares evenly so all the bowl money goes into a pot and is split. So Notre Dame would get a smaller piece of a much bigger pie if the Big Ten places a lot of teams in bowls whether they make one or not.

    And Notre dame would have 4 non-con games so if they dont have to schedule UMich, MSU and Purdue (as they would be conference games now) they could use them on USC and the service academies. No harm no foul.
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    • #32
      Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

      It is true that having both Nebraska and Notre Dame join at the same time would make it easier for the B10 to swallow a split, since whoever "loses" one "gains" the other, and they are each a license to print money. What does a "Bigger Than 10" conference look like?:

      East

      Penn State
      Michigan
      Michigan State
      Ohio State
      Notre Dame
      Purdue
      Indiana
      Rutgers or Pitt

      West

      Nebraska
      Minnesota
      Wisconsin
      Illinois
      Iowa
      Northwestern
      Kansas and Kansas State or Missouri and somebody
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      • #33
        Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        It is true that having both Nebraska and Notre Dame join at the same time would make it easier for the B10 to swallow a split, since whoever "loses" one "gains" the other, and they are each a license to print money. What does a "Bigger Than 10" conference look like?:

        East

        Penn State
        Michigan
        Michigan State
        Ohio State
        Notre Dame
        Purdue
        Indiana
        Rutgers or Pitt

        West

        Nebraska
        Minnesota
        Wisconsin
        Illinois
        Iowa
        Northwestern
        Kansas and Kansas State or Missouri and somebody
        I would think that going to 16 teams would likely end up creating 4 4-team pods for scheduling. That East division would just be a brutal schedule each year.

        Each teams plays their pod and one other pod each season with one other "rivalry" game to make 8.
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        • #34
          Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

          Originally posted by RMUColonials View Post
          I would think that going to 16 teams would likely end up creating 4 4-team pods for scheduling. That East division would just be a brutal schedule each year.

          Each teams plays their pod and one other pod each season with one other "rivalry" game to make 8.
          4 pods but 5 major teams (Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, Notre Dame and Penn State) means 2 somebodies get screwed.
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          • #35
            Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            4 pods but 5 major teams (Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, Notre Dame and Penn State) means 2 somebodies get screwed.
            Depending on the other 3 teams that are added, I think they could make it so that rivalries are kept intact, but schedules are competitive and fair.
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            • #36
              Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              It is true that having both Nebraska and Notre Dame join at the same time would make it easier for the B10 to swallow a split, since whoever "loses" one "gains" the other, and they are each a license to print money. What does a "Bigger Than 10" conference look like?:

              East

              Penn State
              Michigan
              Michigan State
              Ohio State
              Notre Dame
              Purdue
              Indiana
              Rutgers or Pitt

              West

              Nebraska
              Minnesota
              Wisconsin
              Illinois
              Iowa
              Northwestern
              Kansas and Kansas State or Missouri and somebody


              Licking my chops as a Badger fan with that schedule. I'd be wanting title game appearances every year.

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              • #37
                Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                It is true that having both Nebraska and Notre Dame join at the same time would make it easier for the B10 to swallow a split, since whoever "loses" one "gains" the other, and they are each a license to print money. What does a "Bigger Than 10" conference look like?:

                East

                Penn State
                Michigan
                Michigan State
                Ohio State
                Notre Dame
                Purdue
                Indiana
                Rutgers or Pitt

                West

                Nebraska
                Minnesota
                Wisconsin
                Illinois
                Iowa
                Northwestern
                Kansas and Kansas State or Missouri and somebody
                Poor Indiana.
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                • #38
                  Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                  So, after the next few weeks finish up and we have teams like Texas, Rutgers, Oklahoma and Nebraska in the PAC 10 or Big 10, I never again have to listen to a stuck up fan of either conference talk about the all-important tradition of a Pac-10-Big-10 Rose Bowl, right?

                  Because I'm pretty **** sure that being the first to set up your 16 team "super conferences" to create an eventual "Super 64" of D1A has proven pretty clearly that you've urinated heavily all over the idea of "tradition."
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                  • #39
                    Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                    Originally posted by bronconick View Post
                    So, after the next few weeks finish up and we have teams like Texas, Rutgers, Oklahoma and Nebraska in the PAC 10 or Big 10, I never again have to listen to a stuck up fan of either conference talk about the all-important tradition of a Pac-10-Big-10 Rose Bowl, right?

                    Because I'm pretty **** sure that being the first to set up your 16 team "super conferences" to create an eventual "Super 64" of D1A has proven pretty clearly that you've urinated heavily all over the idea of "tradition."
                    If the Big Ten and Pac-10 are the only 2 conferences left, then the tradition will live on.
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                    • #40
                      Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                      If Notre Dame ever meets (edit: Texas) in the Rose Bowl, they should play it in the Cotton Bowl.
                      Last edited by Kepler; 06-11-2010, 07:49 PM.
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                      • #41
                        Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                        And by playing in the "Cotton Bowl", they'll meet in Jerryworld

                        In other news from the ESPN front page, bye bye Baylor:

                        http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5270048

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                        • #42
                          Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          If Notre Dame ever meets Nebraska in the Rose Bowl, they should play it in the Cotton Bowl.
                          Nebraska-Oklahoma better be in the Orange Bowl.
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                          • #43
                            Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                            Originally posted by BoomGoestheDynamite View Post
                            And by playing in the "Cotton Bowl", they'll meet in Jerryworld

                            In other news from the ESPN front page, bye bye Baylor:

                            http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5270048
                            What I got from that was this quote:

                            As quickly as the Big 12 has rushed to the brink of collapse, it could take quite some time for it to become formalized. The coach said the league will have to go on for two more years before splitting up.
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                            • #44
                              Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                              Originally posted by bronconick View Post
                              Nebraska-Oklahoma better be in the Orange Bowl.
                              Yeah, I meant Texas (Nebraska doesn't make sense anyway if both are in the B10). Joke fail.
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                              • #45
                                Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                                Originally posted by JF_Gophers View Post
                                What I got from that was this quote:
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                                Did Va Tech, Miami, and BC play out a final season in the ACC or was the jump immediate?

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