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Originally posted by JF_Gophers View PostIf Notre Dame isn't coming to the Big Ten, I think I'd like them to cap the league at 12 and only take Nebraska. If they are going invite others, than I'd prefer they go to 16 (Neb, ND, Mizzou, KU, KSU).Cornell University
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I'd bet anything that the Mountain West is not currently expanding because they're secretly nursing a woody that they could get KSU, Kansas and ISU instead of Boise State."I went over the facts in my head, and admired how much uglier the situation had just become. Over the years I've learned that ignorance is more than just bliss. It's freaking orgasmic ecstasy".- Harry Dresden, Blood Rites
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostNotre Dame is jammed here, unfortunately (I know, I know, everybody shed a tear.) They wanted to be Indy but Big Ten expansion threatens them, so second best would be as the 12th Big Ten, capping it, but that's now off the table with Nebraska joining (unless the Big Ten dropped all pretexts and dumped Northwestern), so third best is... joining the Big East? Ew. So that probably leaves them Indy, hoping the superconferences somehow implode.
ND still has all of their options available to them, regardless of what happens with Nebraska.
Hell, the ACC would go to 14 to get ND.HT: Bucs FC - IV.46
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Originally posted by RMUColonials View PostIf ND applied to the Big Ten, they would take them before the ink dries and add another team (likely Eastern, Syracuse or Pitt) and go to 14 teams.
ND still has all of their options available to them, regardless of what happens with Nebraska.
Hell, the ACC would go to 14 to get ND.PSNetwork / XBOX GamerTag: xJeris
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Originally posted by bronconick View PostI'd bet anything that the Mountain West is not currently expanding because they're secretly nursing a woody that they could get KSU, Kansas and ISU instead of Boise State.
I think they were hoping that the Pac 10 would take Baylor instead of Colorado. Adding CU plus 2 of the other B12 leftovers (Kan and KSU) would almost certainly get them their BCS bid. They would still probably get it with Kan, KS, and ISU...but Colorado would be far more attractive.HT: Bucs FC - IV.46
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Originally posted by RMUColonials View PostND still has all of their options available to them, regardless of what happens with Nebraska.
The bottom line will probably be the Irish not having won in 22 years. If they had won in the last ten, they wouldn't even be considering a move. With such a long dry spell, the traditionalists (raises hand) have much less firm footing. We can theoretically be convinced, although having the possibility of meeting USC in the Rose Bowl could stress that RS meeting, which would be a Bad Thing.Last edited by Kepler; 06-09-2010, 07:22 PM.Cornell University
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Originally posted by JF_Gophers View PostI think he is saying ND doesn't want a super conference that has 14 and more teams. That makes more mouths to feed, and their revenue is doing a lot of the feeding. It doesn't make as much financial sense to join a weak Big East (or even the ACC).
The only problem for ND with a 14 or 16 team league is scheduling. But with Mich, MSU, Purdue, and possibly Pitt all in conference, most of their long-time "rivals" are already available to play. They could still schedule USC and the service academies every season.HT: Bucs FC - IV.46
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Yeah to Notre Dame the number of teams shouldnt matter. They will make more off the BTN than they do off of NBC and their schedule will hardly be affected as they will most likely get to face off against their current scheduled teams. (they will be placed with Michigan, MSU and Purdue for sure)
Financially speaking they lose nothing. The Big Ten isnt going to be leaning on them for money (or to feed the mouths) as the Big Ten does just fine without them."It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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Originally posted by JF_Gophers View PostI think he is saying ND doesn't want a super conference that has 14 and more teams. That makes more mouths to feed, and their revenue is doing a lot of the feeding. It doesn't make as much financial sense to join a weak Big East (or even the ACC).
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Originally posted by RMUColonials View PostThey could still schedule USC and the service academies every season.
ND makes $15M now. A B10 share is $20 now ($220M net) so if the B10 expands to 16 their contract would have to be renegotiated up to $240 for it to be competitive, but I guess that's a safe assumption with both ND and Nebraska in the fold.
What happens with bowl game revenue, however? ND takes home their entire share now, while they would have to split it in conference (while also gaining their peers' splits of course).Last edited by Kepler; 06-09-2010, 07:30 PM.Cornell University
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostI would like to think so, but they might run out of dates, unless the superconferences start pushing to longer seasons.
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostI would like to think so, but they might run out of dates, unless the superconferences start pushing to longer seasons.HT: Bucs FC - IV.46
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i would bet a 14 team super conference would split into 7 team sides and just play each other, along with one 'natural rival' or something from the other side... allowing 4 home games with grand junction state and east west central california and whatnot.a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.
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