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  • #406
    Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

    Folks, ... twelve ... like the CCHA before UNO left.

    Three clusters of four:

    Pac-10 (or so)
    UAz, ASU, UU, CU
    UCLA, USC, UCB, LJSJU*
    UW, WSU, UO, OSU

    Big-10 (or so)
    UN, Iowa, UMn, UW
    NW, UIll, IU, Purdue
    UMi, MSU, OSU, PSU

    In FB:
    You play everyone in your cluster, everyone in a second cluster, and half of the last cluster (nine conference games). You alternate "second" cluster and "last cluster" each year.


    * Leland J. Stanford, Jr., University
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    • #407
      Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

      Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
      Folks, ... twelve ... like the CCHA before UNO left.

      Three clusters of four:

      Pac-10 (or so)
      UAz, ASU, UU, CU
      UCLA, USC, UCB, LJSJU*
      UW, WSU, UO, OSU

      Big-10 (or so)
      UN, Iowa, UMn, UW
      NW, UIll, IU, Purdue
      UMi, MSU, OSU, PSU

      In FB:
      You play everyone in your cluster, everyone in a second cluster, and half of the last cluster (nine conference games). You alternate "second" cluster and "last cluster" each year.


      * Leland J. Stanford, Jr., University
      How do you pick who plays in the conference title game, then, with 3 clusters/divisions?

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      • #408
        Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

        Originally posted by unofan View Post
        How do you pick who plays in the conference title game, then, with 3 clusters/divisions?
        Clusters are for scheduling.
        One set of standings; top two play.
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        • #409
          Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

          Originally posted by unofan View Post
          How do you pick who plays in the conference title game, then, with 3 clusters/divisions?
          That wouldn't even be an issue. Only conferences with 2 divisions are allowed to have exempt title games.

          NCAA Bylaw 17.9.5.2 (c):
          "The maximum number of football contests shall exclude....A conference championship game between division champions of a member conference of 12 or more institutions that is divided into two divisions (of six or more institutions each), each of which conducts a round-robin, regular-season competition among the members of that division."

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          • #410
            Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

            Originally posted by alfablue View Post
            Let's be really radical...

            BYU
            SMU
            Notre Dame

            what other religious school has football?

            Did someone mention Baylor as leaning?

            Then we can have the offical face off to supremacy over God.

            I'm sure some of the current "minor" schools would step it up given the offer to rule the hearts and minds of the US....

            Although, probably only just apply to the Christian world, since I'm not aware of a Jewish or Muslim primary school in the US that has D1 football.
            How could you consider yourself a college hockey fan and leave BC off the list?

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            • #411
              Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

              Originally posted by Alton View Post
              That wouldn't even be an issue. Only conferences with 2 divisions are allowed to have exempt title games.

              NCAA Bylaw 17.9.5.2 (c):
              "The maximum number of football contests shall exclude....A conference championship game between division champions of a member conference of 12 or more institutions that is divided into two divisions (of six or more institutions each), each of which conducts a round-robin, regular-season competition among the members of that division."
              Kinda thought so but couldn't look that up here at work. Knew there was a reason conferences went to divisions the second they hit 12 teams.

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              • #412
                Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                Nothing against the Spartans, but I don't think they belong with the other four teams you're listing as the traditional power teams in the Big Ten. I'd certainly throw Wisconsin in as the 5th over MSU.
                MGoBlog took a stab at some divisions using a much better metric - winning percentage in the last 10 years and the last 20 years. Each of those factors is ranked 1-12, and then you try and balance accordingly.

                http://mgoblog.com/content/divisions-funny-names

                Code:
                	Historical Record 		Historical Record
Bo 	        20 year Rank 10 year 	Rank 	Woody       20 year 	Rank 	10 year Rank
Iowa 	        59% 	6 	64% 	5 	Michigan 	71% 	3 	65% 	4
Minnesota 	43% 	10 	50% 	8 	Ohio State 	78% 	1 	80% 	1
Wisconsin 	64% 	5 	67% 	2 	Michigan State 	49% 	7 	49% 	10
Nebraska 	76% 	2 	66% 	3 	Purdue 	49% 	8 	54% 	7
Illinois 	41% 	11 	38% 	11 	Indiana 	38% 	12 	33% 	12
Penn State 	71% 	4 	63% 	6 	Northwestern 	45% 	9 	50% 	8
Average 	  	6.33 	  	5.83 	  	  	6.67 	  	7
                So, winning pct over the past 20 years is, in order:

                OSU 78
                Neb 76
                Mich 71
                PSU 71
                Wisc 64
                Iowa 59
                MSU 49
                Purdue 49
                N'Western 45
                Minnesota 43
                Illinois 41
                Indiana 38

                10 Years:

                OSU 80
                Wisconsin 67
                Nebraska 66
                Michigan 65
                Iowa 64
                PSU 63
                Purdue 54
                N'Western 50
                Minnesota 50
                MSU 49
                Illinois 38
                Indiana 33

                So, yeah. In terms of winning actual games, both Iowa and Wisconsin would be well ahead of Michigan State.

                Any way you slice it, the top half of the league is OSU, Michigan, Penn State, Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Iowa.
                Last edited by blockski; 06-17-2010, 11:28 AM.
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                • #413
                  Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                  Originally posted by blockski View Post
                  MGoBlog took a stab at some divisions using a much better metric - winning percentage in the last 10 years and the last 20 years. Each of those factors is ranked 1-12, and then you try and balance accordingly.

                  http://mgoblog.com/content/divisions-funny-names

                  Code:
                  	Historical Record 		Historical Record
Bo 	        20 year Rank 10 year 	Rank 	Woody       20 year 	Rank 	10 year Rank
Iowa 	        59% 	6 	64% 	5 	Michigan 	71% 	3 	65% 	4
Minnesota 	43% 	10 	50% 	8 	Ohio State 	78% 	1 	80% 	1
Wisconsin 	64% 	5 	67% 	2 	Michigan State 	49% 	7 	49% 	10
Nebraska 	76% 	2 	66% 	3 	Purdue 	49% 	8 	54% 	7
Illinois 	41% 	11 	38% 	11 	Indiana 	38% 	12 	33% 	12
Penn State 	71% 	4 	63% 	6 	Northwestern 	45% 	9 	50% 	8
Average 	  	6.33 	  	5.83 	  	  	6.67 	  	7
                  So, winning pct over the past 20 years is, in order:

                  OSU 78
                  Neb 76
                  Mich 71
                  PSU 71
                  Wisc 64
                  Iowa 59
                  MSU 49
                  Purdue 49
                  N'Western 45
                  Minnesota 43
                  Illinois 41
                  Indiana 38

                  10 Years:

                  OSU 80
                  Wisconsin 67
                  Nebraska 66
                  Michigan 65
                  Iowa 64
                  PSU 63
                  Purdue 54
                  N'Western 50
                  Minnesota 50
                  MSU 49
                  Illinois 38
                  Indiana 33

                  So, yeah. In terms of winning actual games, both Iowa and Wisconsin would be well ahead of Michigan State.

                  Any way you slice it, the top half of the league is OSU, Michigan, Penn State, Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Iowa.
                  That analysis makes a whole lot of sense to me. It'll be real interesting to see how the Big Ten and Pac Ten both divide up.
                  Originally posted by Priceless
                  Good to see you're so reasonable.
                  Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                  Very well, said.
                  Originally posted by Rover
                  A fair assessment Bob.

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                  • #414
                    Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                    Reggie Bush said the sanctions are as close to death without dying. He concluded by saying he has a lot of love for the University of California.

                    Why does he love Cal?

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                    • #415
                      Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                      Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                      Reggie Bush said the sanctions are as close to death without dying. He concluded by saying he has a lot of love for the University of California.

                      Why does he love Cal?
                      I heard that too and I burst out laughing. One of the funniest things I've heard from a sports figure not named ozzie or latrell.
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                      • #416
                        Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                        Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                        Reggie Bush said the sanctions are as close to death without dying. He concluded by saying he has a lot of love for the University of California.

                        Why does he love Cal?
                        Maybe he should pay some of the fines? Just maybe.

                        Pawn the heisman trophy, I'm sure someone will pay top dollar for that.

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                        • #417
                          Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                          Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                          Reggie Bush said the sanctions are as close to death without dying. He concluded by saying he has a lot of love for the University of California.

                          Why does he love Cal?
                          He didn't figure he had to say it because he has that Kardashian girlfriend taking care of the "Southern" for him.
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                          • #418
                            Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                            Originally posted by alfablue View Post
                            Let's be really radical...

                            BYU
                            SMU
                            Notre Dame

                            what other religious school has football?

                            Did someone mention Baylor as leaning?

                            Then we can have the offical face off to supremacy over God.

                            I'm sure some of the current "minor" schools would step it up given the offer to rule the hearts and minds of the US....

                            Although, probably only just apply to the Christian world, since I'm not aware of a Jewish or Muslim primary school in the US that has D1 football.
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                            • #419
                              Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                              Originally posted by alfablue View Post
                              Let's be really radical...

                              BYU
                              SMU
                              Notre Dame

                              what other religious school has football?
                              There could be a Syncretic team. The Muslims would play offense and the Jews would play defense.

                              We could start a secular conference too, oh, wait, there already is one.
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                              • #420
                                Re: College Football 2010: Dude, Where's my Conference?

                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                We could start a secular conference too, oh, wait, there already is one.
                                You forgot the other one. (There's a reason they didn't want Baylor. )
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