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  • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

    Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
    There are a whole lot of assumptions built into what you've just said there though. I hesitate to discuss in detail because I'll get the usual assortment of folks climbing all over me. For example, you cite certain things that give rise to faiths. Suffice it to say, for example, Christianity didn't come into place because of aims like keeping kids safe or your tribe in ascendency. Life and existence and what we do are given purpose within God's created order and his plan for relationship with man. Very different than how Carl Sagan saw things. Now, on the surface they might seem to result in similar behaviors at times, but the underlying belief system and purpose for what is done are radically different.
    I'd love discussing the metaphysical and ethical aspects in depth but, as you said, not here.
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    • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

      Originally posted by Priceless View Post
      But not honestly.
      Makes me sad to see you say things like this.
      But such is the way many think these days.
      Originally posted by Priceless
      Good to see you're so reasonable.
      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
      Very well, said.
      Originally posted by Rover
      A fair assessment Bob.

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      • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

        Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
        Makes me sad to see you say things like this.
        But such is the way many think these days.
        Boo hoo. Let me get you a kleenex. You don't want gay marriage because it's written in a book of fairy tales that it's a sin. This is the same book of fairy tales that tells you not to eat shellfish, owning slaves is A-OK and working on Sunday will earn you a rock upside the head. It also has people than had hundreds of wives...how does that jive with the "one man, one woman" slogan?

        Use whatever language you want to justify it. At the end of the day that is your argument. "Metaphysical and ethical aspects" aren't part of the equation.

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        • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

          Originally posted by Priceless View Post
          Boo hoo. Let me get you a kleenex. You don't want gay marriage because it's written in a book of fairy tales that it's a sin. This is the same book of fairy tales that tells you not to eat shellfish, owning slaves is A-OK and working on Sunday will earn you a rock upside the head. It also has people than had hundreds of wives...how does that jive with the "one man, one woman" slogan?

          Use whatever language you want to justify it. At the end of the day that is your argument. "Metaphysical and ethical aspects" aren't part of the equation.
          Sad. No two ways about it.
          Have a good weekend.
          Originally posted by Priceless
          Good to see you're so reasonable.
          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
          Very well, said.
          Originally posted by Rover
          A fair assessment Bob.

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          • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

            Originally posted by Priceless View Post
            Discuss whatever you want. At the end of this debate this statement sums up your side of the argument.
            Frankly I don't give a **** about gay marriage one way or the other - there are far more important issues of immediate importance.

            But you really are being an *** on this one.

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            • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

              Originally posted by unofan View Post
              But you really are being an *** on this one.
              And this is a surprise to anyone?

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              • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                I don't get the comment about going with your morals by screwing your political beliefs. For me the two go hand in hand.
                The problem is when some (not you) insist on applying relgious beliefs in place of moral beleifs when it comes to implementing govermental policy. One may morally oppose abortion, but the loudest advocates ignore morality and insist on applying God to the conversation which utterly destroys civil discourse on the matter.

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                • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                  Originally posted by unofan View Post
                  Frankly I don't give a **** about gay marriage one way or the other - there are far more important issues of immediate importance.

                  But you really are being an *** on this one.
                  Did I miss something? Priceless just made a claim about Bob's posting habits...in a civil manner. To me that's ok...if anything ask Priceless to prove it. Its much more immature to make personal shots...ie call someone brain damaged or a communist.

                  Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                  The problem is when some (not you) insist on applying relgious beliefs in place of moral beleifs when it comes to implementing govermental policy. One may morally oppose abortion, but the loudest advocates ignore morality and insist on applying God to the conversation which utterly destroys civil discourse on the matter.
                  Don't know if your refering to me but...

                  Isn't behaving in the footsteps of God in the old testament or Jesus in the new...the same as having that morality? Basically what much of religion is based on...is a system of morality. And while old testament seems pretty reactionary by societal standards...IMO new testament morality is the direction society has been heading since the bible hit the hands of the people 400 years ago.
                  Go Gophers!

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                  • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                    Originally posted by unofan View Post
                    Frankly I don't give a **** about gay marriage one way or the other - there are far more important issues of immediate importance.

                    But you really are being an *** on this one.
                    If calling out bigotry makes me an ass then so be it.

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                    • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                      Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                      If calling out bigotry makes me an ass then so be it.
                      That's not what makes you an ass. It does create a clever little workaround.
                      Last edited by Kepler; 07-28-2010, 01:14 PM.
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                      • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

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                        • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                          Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                          The problem is when some (not you) insist on applying relgious beliefs in place of moral beleifs when it comes to implementing govermental policy. One may morally oppose abortion, but the loudest advocates ignore morality and insist on applying God to the conversation which utterly destroys civil discourse on the matter.
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                          • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                            Judiciary committee votes 13-6 today in favor of Kagan. 12 Dems + Lindsey Graham.

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                            • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                              Snowe falls.

                              So to nobody's surprised, Kagan's a done dealio.

                              Presumably Ginsberg will be next (by age and bad health). Perhaps she'll be the third annual Feb/Mar announcement.
                              Last edited by Kepler; 07-28-2010, 01:18 PM.
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                              • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                                Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                                The problem is when some (not you) insist on applying relgious beliefs in place of moral beleifs when it comes to implementing govermental policy. One may morally oppose abortion, but the loudest advocates ignore morality and insist on applying God to the conversation which utterly destroys civil discourse on the matter.
                                So if you're a religious person you are supposed to develop a separate set of morals that have no basis in your religious beliefs? That just doesn't make a lick of sense. Morals don't just come in the mail and you install them like a software program. If you are non-religious, then I can understand of course you'd look elsewhere for your basis for your morals, but if you are religious, I just don't get how your religious beliefs can't impact, very likely heavily, your morals.
                                Originally posted by Priceless
                                Good to see you're so reasonable.
                                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                                Very well, said.
                                Originally posted by Rover
                                A fair assessment Bob.

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