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  • #136
    Originally posted by Patman View Post
    Its not that I don't recognize moderates... moderates take positions "in the middle"... the problem with that idea is that if one stakes out an extreme plank then what you want or accept becomes moderate. So, why not work this in reverse. Lets polarize further in the direction I want... but I won't call it that. I suppose the problem here is that nobody here reflexively believes that I'm reasonable. But, if you did then I would stake out a further extreme position because I know you'll jump when a "moderate" takes the "middle" position.
    Or you could stop the childish gamesmanship and simply engage in honest discourse. If your "opponent" doesn't do the same it makes no sense to lower yourself simply to try and win a superficial competition. Your attitude is why schmucks like Glen Beck and Keith Olbermann have such huge audiences, all without advancing a friggin single ounce of positive change.

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    • #137
      Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

      Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
      I expect more out of a stats man like you. If there's one paper at -10 and another at +10, and somebody starts one up at +11, the +10 paper doesn't suddenly get to claim the mantle of "moderate." Completely preposterous.

      Between != middle.
      He's spinning you up on purpose?
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      • #138
        Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        He's spinning you up on purpose?
        Lynah... i know where the truth lies (at least in the regards of these papers)... what I'm saying is that 1) the truth doesn't matter, 2) if it doesn't matter then why shouldn't it be on my terms instead of theirs?
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        • #139
          Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

          Originally posted by Patman View Post
          Lynah... i know where the truth lies (at least in the regards of these papers)... what I'm saying is that 1) the truth doesn't matter, 2) if it doesn't matter then why shouldn't it be on my terms instead of theirs?
          See, now that is how I feel about Faux and MSNBC...the truth doesn't matter just say something half the people will buy it!
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          • #140
            Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

            Originally posted by Handyman View Post
            See, now that is how I feel about Faux and MSNBC...the truth doesn't matter just say something half the people will buy it!
            Rather, in the case of msnbc, maybe a few hundred thousand.
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            • #141
              Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

              Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
              I expect more out of a stats man like you. If there's one paper at -10 and another at +10, and somebody starts one up at +11, the +10 paper doesn't suddenly get to claim the mantle of "moderate." Completely preposterous.

              Between != middle.
              Exactly. The Washington Times isn't "moderate" because it isn't *as* conservative as the Washington Examiner, any more than the New York Daily News is "moderate" because it isn't *as* liberal as the New York Times. (Or, for that matter, than the New York Post is "moderate" because it isn't *as* conservative as the Wall Street Journal.)
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              • #142
                Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                So what is a "moderate" newspaper?

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                • #143
                  Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                  Originally posted by WeWantMore View Post
                  So what is a "moderate" newspaper?
                  Out of business?
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                  • #144
                    Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                    Originally posted by Patman View Post
                    Lynah... i know where the truth lies (at least in the regards of these papers)... what I'm saying is that 1) the truth doesn't matter, 2) if it doesn't matter then why shouldn't it be on my terms instead of theirs?
                    Why the lack of ambition? Why not call the Post socialist, the Times liberal, the Examiner moderate, and claim that the conservative space (as usual) is unoccupied by any media presence?

                    For the same reason that calling the Times moderate doesn't work. Because there are too many smart people here. You can engage in issue framing all you want, but if you're going to be crazy about it, you'll need an audience that's stupid. Like a daytime AM radio audience, for instance. There are waaaay too many college (and grad school) grads around to pull it off @ uscho.
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                    • #145
                      Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                      Who needs newspapers when you can read celebrity blogs?

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                      • #146
                        Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                        Originally posted by amherstblackbear View Post
                        Why the lack of ambition? Why not call the Post socialist, the Times liberal, the Examiner moderate, and claim that the conservative space (as usual) is unoccupied by any media presence?

                        For the same reason that calling the Times moderate doesn't work. Because there are too many smart people here. You can engage in issue framing all you want, but if you're going to be crazy about it, you'll need an audience that's stupid. Like a daytime AM radio audience, for instance. There are waaaay too many college (and grad school) grads around to pull it off @ uscho.
                        because you can't tack that far without people noticing... besides, you also know that there's nothing that "conservative" at least in the American definition of conservative... at that point the word "conservative" fails and you start splintering into other ideologies.
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                        • #147
                          Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                          SCOTUS: NFL is 32 teams, not one business

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                          • #148
                            Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                            Holy crap. Covington & Burling doesn't lose very often.
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                            • #149
                              Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                              Originally posted by amherstblackbear View Post
                              Holy crap. Covington & Burling doesn't lose very often.
                              And a 9-0 rout, to boot. I read some of the oral argument a few months ago, and it sounded like the Court wasn't entirely buying the Appellant's arguments at that time.
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                              • #150
                                Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                                Man, their case must have sucked hardcore to get those 9 to agree on something.

                                Maybe the NFL thought they could just appeal this back to Goodell.
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