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  • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

    Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
    What ban on ethnic studies? It was a specific course in Tucson that there were issues with. Never heard of anything statewide here.
    Just to be clear from Wikipedia:

    In May 2010, the Governor of Arizona signed House Bill 2281 which bans all ethnically exclusive forms of state-funded teaching in the state. Chicano Studies will be disbanded in state-funded schools effective on January 1, 2011.
    Go Gophers!

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    • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

      Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
      Just to be clear from Wikipedia:

      In May 2010, the Governor of Arizona signed House Bill 2281 which bans all ethnically exclusive forms of state-funded teaching in the state. Chicano Studies will be disbanded in state-funded schools effective on January 1, 2011.
      Like I said, I think by ethnically exclusive, it meant a certain way the Tucson program was done. I haven't seen anything here where other ethnic studies programs around the state have been impacted.
      Originally posted by Priceless
      Good to see you're so reasonable.
      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
      Very well, said.
      Originally posted by Rover
      A fair assessment Bob.

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      • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

        An interesting historical survey of Presidents disagreeing with Supreme Court decisions in today's Wall Street Journal.

        Basically, Presidents have rarely been successful by attacking the Court directly. Instead, either they get a Constitutional Amendment passed (e.g., the income tax) or they bide their time and wait for someone to resign or die. It seems voters have liked judicial independence for a long time.
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        • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

          Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
          An interesting historical survey of Presidents disagreeing with Supreme Court decisions in today's Wall Street Journal.

          Basically, Presidents have rarely been successful by attacking the Court directly. Instead, either they get a Constitutional Amendment passed (e.g., the income tax) or they bide their time and wait for someone to resign or die. It seems voters have liked judicial independence for a long time.
          Which is good, since it preserves checks and balances.

          It will be fun watching the GOP simultaneously attacking "judicial activism" while defending "judicial independence."
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          • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            It will be fun watching the GOP simultaneously attacking "judicial activism" while defending "judicial independence."

            You have a droll sense of "fun."

            It seems to me that the Repugnican message will be quite terse: "vote for Romney so that Obama doesn't get any more chances to nominate any more Justices" and that will be about all they have to say on the subject.
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            "Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy, which sustained him through temporary periods of joy." -- W. B. Yeats

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            • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

              Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
              It seems to me that the Repugnican message will be quite terse: "vote for Romney so that Obama doesn't get any more chances to nominate any more Justices" and that will be about all they have to say on the subject.
              I think they will roll out a social issues message to reinforce it, but yeah, that sounds about right. Gotta figure Ginsburg will retire if Obama wins re-election, so he would get at least one more. Kennedy and Scalia would each be 80 in 2016 -- Scalia would stay just because. Kennedy though... that's interesting.

              Breyer will be 78 in 2016. I wonder whether he would retire to complete the rejuvenation of the "liberal" wing. In any case, the oldest four justices (2 liberal, 1 conservative, 1 center) were born in the 1930's, and their replacements will all be born in the 1960's.

              After those four there is ten year age gap until the next oldest justice (Thomas), so we could be approaching another long period with a stable Court, like 1994-2005.

              If the analogy of the GOP collapse with the 80's Dem collapse held strictly and the Dems held the presidency for a full 12 years, we could wind up with a Court composition circa 2020 of (birth year in parens):

              6 Liberals (54, 60, 6x, 6x, 6x, 6x)
              3 Conservatives (48, 50, 55)

              which might wind up making the Warren Court look right wing.

              On the other hand, there was a period when 8 of the 9 justices was a Republican nominee, so who knows?
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              • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                Iwhich might wind up making the Warren Court look right wing.
                Now that would be an accomplishment!
                Originally posted by Priceless
                Good to see you're so reasonable.
                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                Very well, said.
                Originally posted by Rover
                A fair assessment Bob.

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                • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                  Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                  Now that would be an accomplishment!
                  Here's hoping.
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                  • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    Here's hoping.
                    Wouldn't shock me. Not much does anymore. Of course if the Reps could get their act together and get to make an appointment or two if a liberal justice steps down/dies, then you might get a solidly conservative court for the first time in memory. And they'd actually appoint conservative justices, which they only sometimes have done in the past (unlike Dem's stellar success in nominating pretty much only liberal justices). Now that would be a shocker!
                    Originally posted by Priceless
                    Good to see you're so reasonable.
                    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                    Very well, said.
                    Originally posted by Rover
                    A fair assessment Bob.

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                    • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                      Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                      Like I said, I think by ethnically exclusive, it meant a certain way the Tucson program was done. I haven't seen anything here where other ethnic studies programs around the state have been impacted.
                      So basically they're just targeting Hispanics. Got it.
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                      • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        Here's hoping.
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                        • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                          Originally posted by Rover View Post
                          So basically they're just targeting Hispanics. Got it.
                          Reading comprehension, meet Rover.
                          Originally posted by Priceless
                          Good to see you're so reasonable.
                          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                          Very well, said.
                          Originally posted by Rover
                          A fair assessment Bob.

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                          • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                            Originally posted by MinnFan View Post
                            Who needs a Constitution
                            Oh, people need a Constitution for cover, but they now realize they can, over time, make it say whatever they want.

                            "The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people,
                            it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government, lest it come to dominate our lives and interests."

                            Patrick Henry
                            Originally posted by Priceless
                            Good to see you're so reasonable.
                            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                            Very well, said.
                            Originally posted by Rover
                            A fair assessment Bob.

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                            • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                              Originally posted by MinnFan View Post
                              Who needs a Constitution
                              FDR wiped his *** with it. Since then it's been nothing.
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                              • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                                Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                                Oh, people need a Constitution for cover, but they now realize they can, over time, make it say whatever they want.

                                "The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people,
                                it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government, lest it come to dominate our lives and interests."

                                Patrick Henry
                                Both sides are guilty of trying to dominate our lives and wave the constitution as an excuse. You have the social issues, the fiscal issues and the legal stuff. I feel confident that the founding fathers would be appalled at what people say they were trying to do or what ppeople would like to do in using that document.

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