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  • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

    Originally posted by WeWantMore View Post
    Funny, but probably not appropriate.

    Come to think of it, that sort of describes Obama's remarks the past few days.
    Activist judges, only when the other side does it.

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    • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

      Originally posted by joecct View Post
      That is kind of scary that a judge could sound like a spoiled teenager mimicking a teacher. I would think a judge would be more professional.

      I am probably naive but what influence does Obama have on the SC. It's not like he has anything he can do. Politicians have been stumping on both sides forever about what ever controversial case the SC is considering. Why is this any different other than we have a much less subtle activist media (this goes for both sides)? Has there ever been a case where the SC was influenced that we know of? I think the judges are pretty opinionated on their own. (I could google it but I am lazy and you guys will come up with stuff if it happened)

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      • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

        Originally posted by leswp1 View Post
        Has there ever been a case where the SC was influenced that we know of?
        During the 1930s, FDR was frustrated when the SCOTUS kept noticing that there was little to no constitutional authority for what he wanted to do. He proposed that the SCOTUS be expanded from 9 justices to 15 so that he could appoint six more who would vote the way he wanted them to.

        While his proposal was not enacted, the nature and tenor of SCOTUS rulings apparently did change afterward, at least according to historians I've read. I inserted a link to Wikipedia above that gives more background information.
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        • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

          Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
          During the 1930s, FDR was frustrated when the SCOTUS kept noticing that there was little to no constitutional authority for what he wanted to do. He proposed that the SCOTUS be expanded from 9 justices to 15 so that he could appoint six more who would vote the way he wanted them to.

          While his proposal was not enacted, the nature and tenor of SCOTUS rulings apparently did change afterward, at least according to historians I've read. I inserted a link to Wikipedia above that gives more background information.
          So that's how we ended up being a socialist country. I always wondered.
          **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

          Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
          Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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          • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

            The temerity of someone questioning something Obama did! No one may question our Kenyan king!
            Originally posted by Priceless
            Good to see you're so reasonable.
            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
            Very well, said.
            Originally posted by Rover
            A fair assessment Bob.

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            • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

              Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
              The temerity of someone questioning something Obama did! No one may question our Kenyan king!
              Actually, there seriously are a lot of people (especially of the baby boomer generation) that deride the younger folk for questioning our leaders, sometimes in such an insulting manner. The days of blind faith are over. They should know that after the Fed killed Kennedy.

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              • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
                While his proposal was not enacted, the nature and tenor of SCOTUS rulings apparently did change afterward, at least according to historians I've read. I inserted a link to Wikipedia above that gives more background information.
                I knew if I waited long enough you would not post just another Newsmax talking point. This is actually correct.

                This is the famous "switch in time that saved nine."

                Apparently there is debate among historians whether the effect was as strong as the conventional wisdom. Certainly in my undergrad con law class (when dinosaurs roamed the earth) it was portrayed as strongly affecting the court's subsequent direction. I always thought it was a terrible precedent for one branch to interfere with another so hamfistedly, though anything that pissed off James Clark McReynolds can't be all bad.

                Also, it led to the end of Lochner, the second-worst decision in SCOTUS history.
                Last edited by Kepler; 04-04-2012, 10:10 AM.
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                • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                  Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                  The temerity of someone questioning something Obama did! No one may question our Kenyan king!


                  The ratio of people who brainlessly hate Obama to those who brainlessly follow Obama is about a million to one.

                  And all this from a political group who every time Reagan comes up sings "when I think about you, I touch myself."
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                  • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                    Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                    Actually, there seriously are a lot of people (especially of the baby boomer generation) that deride the younger folk for questioning our leaders, sometimes in such an insulting manner. The days of blind faith are over. They should know that after the Fed killed Kennedy.
                    Your lack of respect for our great Kenyan is most disappointing. Show proper fealty to your sovereign.
                    Originally posted by Priceless
                    Good to see you're so reasonable.
                    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                    Very well, said.
                    Originally posted by Rover
                    A fair assessment Bob.

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                    • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post


                      The ratio of people who brainlessly hate Obama to those who brainlessly follow Obama is about a million to one.
                      Maybe in that alternate universe where Kirk, Bones, Uhuru, and Scotty get beamed to.
                      Last edited by Bob Gray; 04-04-2012, 10:19 AM.
                      Originally posted by Priceless
                      Good to see you're so reasonable.
                      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                      Very well, said.
                      Originally posted by Rover
                      A fair assessment Bob.

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                      • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                        Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                        Maybe in that alternate universe where Kirk, Spock, Uhuru, and Scotty get beamed to.
                        Bearded Hillary is a great image.

                        And smart Palin is a mind-blowing concept.
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                        • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          Bearded Hillary is a great image.
                          I really didn't need that one!
                          Originally posted by Priceless
                          Good to see you're so reasonable.
                          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                          Very well, said.
                          Originally posted by Rover
                          A fair assessment Bob.

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                          • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                            Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                            I really didn't need that one!
                            Sorry.

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                            • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              Sorry.
                              She has my vote if she promises to shave!
                              Originally posted by Priceless
                              Good to see you're so reasonable.
                              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
                              Very well, said.
                              Originally posted by Rover
                              A fair assessment Bob.

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                              • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                                Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                                She has my vote if she promises to shave!
                                Now that's an image I didn't need!!!
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