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  • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

    Originally posted by amherstblackbear View Post
    I love how that clown is now portraying himself as the victim, suggesting that Princeton (and Kagan) have something to hide.

    He. Broke. The. Law. It doesn't take world-class jurisprudence to see it. Violating copyright law isn't up there with murder, but that's beside the point. Arguing that laws can be ignored when inconvenient doesn't strike me as a very Red State position.

    But who cares. This isn't about Kagan. It's about the debate about Kagan. And mission accomplished. The guy's added to that, justifying his website's existence in the process.
    I pretty much agree with you. As much as I would love the thesis to have been the ****ing indictment of Ms. Kagan, I really don't see it. I also don't see it being taken down as an indication of Princeton having something to hide either, but whatever.

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    • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

      The thing is, he's using it to draw visitors to a site that collects ad revenue.

      There's no rule preventing him from discussing it, citing it, or misinterpreting criticizing it. The whole thing is just political theater.

      And it's working, b/c it's even got college hockey fans talking.
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      • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

        I read the first ~10 pages of it, and I can't help but make the following conclusions:
        1) It was boring.
        2) Writing about socialism doesn't make her a socialist.

        Unless her tone changed dramatically later in the paper, I don't see what the big *'ing deal is about what she wrote. It's not like she wrote a new socialist manifesto.

        I fully expect her to be just another typical lefty judge that votes with that bloc on the court should she be confirmed. In other words, nothing will change from the way it already is with Stevens. It's amazing how worked up people can get about maintaining the status quo.

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        • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

          Originally posted by Bakunin View Post
          I read the first ~10 pages of it, and I can't help but make the following conclusions:
          1) It was boring.
          2) Writing about socialism doesn't make her a socialist.
          :
          I skimmed a few parts yesterday. It's a by-the-numbers thesis in social science / history.

          1. Take a question/puzzle: Other countries have socialist parties that aren't electorally irrelevant. The United States does not. What accounts for the difference.

          2. Look at existing literature and identify common threads: Most accounts focus on American political culture or on institutional design (2-party system).

          3. Identify gaps in literature and propose an explanation that "fills" one: to what extent were the Socialists responsible for their own irrelevance? Bonus points here for being clever. If socialists are all about mobilization and political organizing, it's kind of interesting if their deficiencies in those areas sunk them.

          4. Use whatever historical methods are accessible to an undergrad (I dunno how good she was at that point, I'm no historian) and see if if evidence bears it out.

          5. ?

          6. Profit

          It's pretty well written for an undergrad, though it does have that 'precious' tone common to many precocious undergrads who want to impress. Flowery, emotive language, that kind of stuff. Maybe she did get wrapped up in it while she was writing it. It happens.

          What it clearly isn't is a manifesto about how Socialism is the true and right path, and a detailed how-to guide for aspiring socialists to get it right in the 20th/21st Century.
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          • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

            Remember when Sotomayor was going to end the world? Same thing.

            Nothing matters until there is a chance to shift the Court, like Bakunin wrote. It probably won't even happen with the next nominee, assuming Ginsburg announces next April.

            Now, if Obama is still president when Scalia takes a powder, the blood will run in the streets.
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              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              Now, if Obama is still president when Scalia takes a powder, the blood will run in the streets.
              I doubt Scalia would retire with Obama in office knowing that his replacement would be a game-changer on the court.

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              • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                Originally posted by Bakunin View Post
                I doubt Scalia would retire with Obama in office knowing that his replacement would be a game-changer on the court.
                Oh me too, he's hyper-political. He is the oldest after Ginsburg, though.
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                • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  Oh me too, he's hyper-political. He is the oldest after Ginsburg, though.
                  If it meant guaranteeing a conservative replaces him, he'd allow himself to be a nano technology guinea pig to sustain himself long enough for a republican president to occupy the white house - even if it takes another 18 years.

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                  • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                    Originally posted by Bakunin View Post
                    If it meant guaranteeing a conservative replaces him, he'd allow himself to be a nano technology guinea pig to sustain himself long enough for a republican president to occupy the white house - even if it takes another 18 years.
                    Height of irony if he needed stem cell tech.
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                    • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                      The confirmation process takes way too long in the age of the internet and 24 hour news cycle. The minute Stevens announced his retirement it was known Kagan was under consideration, and if there was anything of substance out there about her, it would have been known already. So what's the hold up? If you see nonsense stories about freshman year essays, its time to move to a vote.
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                      • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                        Originally posted by Bakunin View Post
                        If it meant guaranteeing a conservative replaces him, he'd allow himself to be a nano technology guinea pig to sustain himself long enough for a republican president to occupy the white house - even if it takes another 18 years.
                        Well, that is what Stevens did.
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                        • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                          Originally posted by jmh View Post
                          Well, that is what Stevens did.
                          He wasn't seriously tested, though. He only had to last through two terms of republican rule. Now if McCain had won, and Stevens had to survive another 8 years before retiring, that would have been impressive.

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                          • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                            Originally posted by Bakunin View Post
                            He wasn't seriously tested, though. He only had to last through two terms of republican rule. Now if McCain had won, and Stevens had to survive another 8 years before retiring, that would have been impressive.
                            Stevens was already 80 when Bush was elected! If Obama wins a second term, at the end of that term Scalia will be 80, and then he'll have to stay on the Court another eight years after that to be as old as Stevens was when he announced his retirement.
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                            • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                              Originally posted by Rover View Post
                              The confirmation process takes way too long in the age of the internet and 24 hour news cycle. The minute Stevens announced his retirement it was known Kagan was under consideration, and if there was anything of substance out there about her, it would have been known already. So what's the hold up? If you see nonsense stories about freshman year essays, its time to move to a vote.
                              you mean its time for hearings to see what she thinks, right? I'd love to hear her thoughts on Kelo v. New London.

                              edit: there's also some discussion on her restrictive view on the first amendment... something about the desire to restrict "over represented" speech.
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                              • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                                Originally posted by Patman View Post
                                you mean its time for hearings to see what she thinks, right? I'd love to hear her thoughts on Kelo v. New London.

                                edit: there's also some discussion on her restrictive view on the first amendment... something about the desire to restrict "over represented" speech.
                                http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...operty-rights/

                                Interesting read. I like the fact that she takes a more sane approach to personal property. I still can't believe the court sided with eminent domain on that...
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