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  • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

    Originally posted by ScottM View Post
    Jeff Sessions has to be the biggest idiot in the Senate ... and that says a lot.
    Are you saying that if Patrick Leahy asked for documents about a Bush 43 appointee and was denied access to 1600 documents from his time working under Bush 41 and suggested the democrats may boycott the appointment hearings, you'd consider Leahy one of the biggest idiots? It seems like a reasonable request to at least have a chance for somoene to review the documents before someone gets a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the United Sates.
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      Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
      Are you saying that if Patrick Leahy asked for documents about a Bush 43 appointee and was denied access to 1600 documents from his time working under Bush 41 and suggested the democrats may boycott the appointment hearings, you'd consider Leahy one of the biggest idiots? It seems like a reasonable request to at least have a chance for somoene to review the documents before someone gets a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the United Sates.
      No, Sessions' repeated attempts to pin down Kagan on military recruiting at HLS bordered on the absurd. There's a reason, or may three, he never made it to the federal bench, and it seemed to be in full glory today.
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      • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

        This will end of before the SCOTUS eventually.

        U.S. Judge Rules Federal Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

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          Originally posted by Priceless View Post
          This will end of before the SCOTUS eventually.

          U.S. Judge Rules Federal Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional
          I know this is thread drift, but I'm going to say it anyway: I'm about ready for the government to say that "marriage" is exclusively a religious institution, which can be defined by religious organizations however they see fit (and if the Catholic church, or whoever else, doesn't want to marry same-sex couples then that's their prerogative, separation of church and state works both ways), and the government will only perform/recognize "civil unions" (or whatever name you prefer) that cover all the tax stuff and health care benefits and whatever else. You can go to a member of the clergy, and s/he can perform a "marriage" that includes a "civil union", or you can go to a judge/Elvis impersonator/whoever, and s/he can perform a "civil union" that does exactly the same things as a "marriage" in the eyes of the government. It's infuriating that so much of what people arguing about boils down to terminology.
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          • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

            Originally posted by jmh View Post
            I know this is thread drift, but I'm going to say it anyway: I'm about ready for the government to say that "marriage" is exclusively a religious institution, which can be defined by religious organizations however they see fit (and if the Catholic church, or whoever else, doesn't want to marry same-sex couples then that's their prerogative, separation of church and state works both ways), and the government will only perform/recognize "civil unions" (or whatever name you prefer) that cover all the tax stuff and health care benefits and whatever else. You can go to a member of the clergy, and s/he can perform a "marriage" that includes a "civil union", or you can go to a judge/Elvis impersonator/whoever, and s/he can perform a "civil union" that does exactly the same things as a "marriage" in the eyes of the government. It's infuriating that so much of what people arguing about boils down to terminology.
            I, too, have been saying this for years.
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            • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

              Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
              I, too, have been saying this for years.
              Same here.

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              • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                Sounds fine to me. Gay marriage is one of the issues I couldn't care less about to be honest.

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                  Originally posted by French Rage View Post
                  Same here.
                  Me too. As long as they can't be denied any civil benefits, I don't care whether some church thinks they're married. The Mormons are just going to dig up our bones and retro-bless us all anyway.
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                  • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                    Sounds good to me.

                    Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                    This will end of before the SCOTUS eventually.

                    U.S. Judge Rules Federal Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional
                    The unfortunate thing is that issues like this come down to partisan garbage. For once, it would be nice to see something like this decided by common law and the Constitution.
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                    • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                      Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                      For once, it would be nice to see something like this decided by common law and the Constitution.
                      Surely you're not talking about the Supreme Court...
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                      Originally posted by Kepler
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                      • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                        If you really want the feds out of the "marriage business", you'll need to start revising the US Code provisions dealing with taxation (e.g., married filing, inheritance, etc.), social security benefits, VA benefits, etc. that seem to encourage or at least benefit the institution.
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                        • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                          The problem with your solutions, as Scott points out, is the government has already gotten involved in the marriage "business." Writing the government out of marriage isn't realistic so the question is left: How do you define marriage legally?

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                          • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                            Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                            The problem with your solutions, as Scott points out, is the government has already gotten involved in the marriage "business." Writing the government out of marriage isn't realistic so the question is left: How do you define marriage legally?
                            You don't.

                            You take all the marriage laws and using Microsoft Word you do the following.

                            Ctrl-H
                            Find What: Marriage
                            Replace with: Civil Union

                            Done.
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                              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                              You don't.

                              You take all the marriage laws and using Microsoft Word you do the following.

                              Ctrl-H
                              Find What: Marriage
                              Replace with: Civil Union

                              Done.
                              OK...that's what we do in Fantasy Land. This is the real world.

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                              • Re: The Power of the SCOTUS II: "Release the Kagan!"

                                Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                                OK...that's what we do in Fantasy Land. This is the real world.
                                In the real world you also try to win a land war in Asia.
                                **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                                Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                                Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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